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zephyr sucks lol

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USrankPRO_Zow
2 years ago
whats the point of this unit its such a joke

400 cost and cant hit anything, its not anti air its anti hitting air

it seems like it is almost always better/cheaper to build your own air lab and make fighters instead of this unit... whys it exist its such shit
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RUrankizirayd
2 years ago
all aa units zk are weak, perhaps except for Ettin, this is due to the fact that the aircraft should be able to strike and take a lot of damage, but it should strike. A certain mass of aa units is required for an aircraft unit to be killed, but even so it is capable of inflicting damage, and only with a large number of aa units, aircraft is not capable of inflicting damage on groupings of units. 5-6 zephyrs make the fleet grouping protected.
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USrankPRO_Zow
2 years ago
fine with it being weak but this thing actually just misses, looks like its actually just been an issue https://github.com/ZeroK-RTS/Zero-K/issues/3500

5-6 doesnt protect nothin
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AUrankabcpea
2 years ago
make it fire high-density bursts, like real AA
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DErankAdminmojjj
2 years ago
LAZORSHOTGUN!
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PLrankRafalpluk
2 years ago
(edited 2 years ago)
Another problem I see is the imbalance of some AA (particularly Zephyr) in a fight vs Gunships and vs Planes.
Versus Gunships it is quite dangerous I think, but versus Planes it is laughable as shown in the linked issue where air guy at some point stopped even caring to bomb Zephyrs as they were no danger to him.
Imho Gunships are in bad enough position already and shouldn't additionally be hurt by existence of AA that is anti-gunship only.
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ROrankSigero
2 years ago
(edited 2 years ago)
bullet based AA misses a lot becuase of radar dots but missiles do not miss radar dots
bullet aa misses planes if they zig zag or change direction

in conclusion build zephyr/toad/gremlin/vandal only if you have no other choice they do not have the range dps or accuracy to be reliable as AA vs planes.

Ettin is so strong because of its AOE the only AOE mobile AA.

Mobile AA is best for offensive duties and should allways have some AA with your army while artemis deletes all air incursions but its expensive and easy target.

In sea having anglers(THE BEST AA) stay surfaced at all times is our best mobile defense


Mobile AA effectiveness vs :
licho: Angler>tarantula>flail>sumo>ettin
raven: Ettin>angler>tarantula>ogre
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