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My rankup to blue broke...

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This is specifically for moderators/admins because it said "Rank up on your next victory!", but I won a game on LLTA Complex and then my rank% went down to 98?? I'm confused why this happened. (I would appreciate if I could be promoted to blue, but I can also just grind for blue again D:)
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14 months ago
The rating system is inscrutable sometimes. Win some more games.
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Bet, gotta exercise first tho :(
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14 months ago
dunno said something about there being a rank buffer to get to blue and he says i haven't crossed it yet. I'm confused as to what he means because I had to go at around the time of my last post. Could you elaborate on this Aquanim?
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dunno said something about there being a rank buffer to get to blue

dunno's statement is correct but probably did not address your specific question. As per your rating page your current casual rating is
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Current rating: 2384.603 ± 156.0312

and the line between silver and blue is
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Next rank bracket: 2298.347

so you have surpassed the line between silver and blue, but not by quite enough to rank up. Similarly, if you become blue and then lose a bunch of games, you would have to fall a ways below 2298 (or whatever the number then happens to be) to become silver again.

However, the rank bar on your player profile page takes this into account, so that does not fully explain why it said "Rank up on your next victory" and then you won and did not rank up. This probably has to do with WHR taking into account the results of other players, and games you are not in.

When you saw the message "Rank up on your next victory!" on your userpage the system believed you were at or over the required threshold to promote, but you can only promote when you win a game. By the time you won your next game, other results had come in which put you just below the threshold (either by decreasing your rating, or increasing the threshold).
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14 months ago
Some background on the "rank buffer": to avoid people that are very close to the threshold between ranks to change rank up and down depending on the result of few games (which would be annoying for everybody), there is a mechanism in place to "place you" in next rank just when you are already further from the threshold (for example 20% of the way to next rank).

Another thing to keep in mind: the ratings are (re)computed after rated game for everybody (not just for the players in that game). This means that the system can "update its understanding" of how good a team was based on "future games". Assuming a new player comes that is a super expert (maybe previous player, maybe played campaign, etc.). initially the system does not know anything about the new player - gives it a "small rating" (most new players are not that good), and puts the player in your team. Assume the new player (because his initial rating was "too low" compared to real skills), wins 50 games in a row (exaggerated but you get the idea). Now, in the first game he played, the team in which he was had quite a big advantage (because he was really a good player) so the rating system takes that into account (by decreasing a bit how he assess the first victory as it understands now it was an easy victory). Of course practically this is more complex - as it does it based on all games and players at once.

In my experience, if you want to progress faster, player smaller games. You gain much more rating by winning 4x4 compared to 16x16.
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Finally ranked up to blue, but the other times I ranked up i started with 30%, this time im starting with 20%. I haven't played any games since i got blue and just wondering if its normal. (Just put 2 and 2 together, dunno said the 20% buffer, now i realize starting blue with 20% is probably the standard. Correct me if im wrong tho :D)
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14 months ago
Congratulations to making blue! It takes some skill, effort and stubbornness!

My guess about the 30% / 20% is that previously the ranking system was adjusting the opinion about you faster (the system was realizing that you are better than he thought), but these are details. Good luck making your way up the ladder (I find that easier to track than progress to next level, plus I see the names of the people close to me as a bonus)!
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14 months ago
Congratulations Logix.

If you want to win more games, just duel me.
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14 months ago
ty but Flimsy you solo PRO_rANDY u easily solo me (nr1_rANDY_FAN) would be a hard fought battle but i see nr1_rANDY_FAN prevailing, sorry Flimsy)
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14 months ago
nice job
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logix is blue, zk has truely fallen

(joking ofc)
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14 months ago
No progress whatsoever -_-
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14 months ago
How did you get spec mute alrdy.... did you not change your ways?
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14 months ago
i stoppped insulting people but i kept taunting them :( thats what i said i would change
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14 months ago
well maybe i didnt stop insulting i just do it less now...
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