Just had a sweet idea for the flea ( post your unit ideas here that will prolly never be programmed)

Cool idea but unprecedented on the Spring engine as far as I know.

well fleas have so little hp that lifedrain would really only matter in flea vs. flea battles, anything else pretty much oneshots them. maybe with some insane micro you could beat a glaive.

quote: t is possible to give the Grizzly a lot of collision volumes that follow the model.

Spring has this per-piece collisions volume thing, but that doesn't influence aimsphere, so units will still refuse to shoot fleas inside that sphere.

Plus that would require fleas being able to climb on any units (or at least on everything sufficiently large), which means having to rework each such unit.

The crawling itself is probably doable with movectrl and interpolation between pieces of a model.

While this would look cool it would be annoying as hell. Grizzly probably would die against 1 flea. Even with support flea could move somewhere to hide against fire basically nothing but AOE would work while also damaging whatever other unit. Flea would become single most OP unit. +All sorta glitches would happen.

In fact what already spring supports is unit crushing. So why golly, other heavy units couldnt crush flea? It would look really cool + on fight command fleas dance around anyway so only cloaked siting fleas would be crushed instead being pushed.

In fact even dune 2 on sega genesis/mega drive had such feature. SHAME ON YOU ZERO-K dune 2 pwn you.

Nah, not a good mechanic with how our hitspheres work, fleas already do this to buildings and it is a bug. :(

Puppies doing DoT would be so bad, you'd waste the shots on dead units over and over. A DoT flyer is fine, but not for a swarm unit like the puppy.

quote: In fact what already spring supports is unit crushing. So why golly, other heavy units couldnt crush flea? It would look really cool + on fight command fleas dance around anyway so only cloaked siting fleas would be crushed instead being pushed.

Then it would also crush your units (following the, well, friendly-fire-logic in spring). Which would be pretty bad.

quote: ( post your unit ideas here that will prolly never be programmed)

I was thinking of a couple of things myself only I was focusing on sea combat instead, here’s what I have so far:


Seaborne anti-porc (because porcpushing is even worse on sea than on land):

->Monitor-class artillery support ship—basically think of it as a seaborne pillager with about the same strengths and weaknesses the pillager has on land only updated for sea.

Concept clarifications: A monitor was a class of relatively small warship which was neither fast nor strongly armored but carried disproportionately large guns. They were used by some navies from the 1860s until the end of World War II, and saw their final use by the United States Navy during the Vietnam War.[1]

More at :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_%28warship%29#Derivative_uses_of_the_name


Gun barge – traditionally a type of heavily armed defense vessel
I was thinking of adapting the concept to zero-k combat as followas :
 large slow chassis (slowest ship in game) with poor maneuverability,
 Medium to medium-high range (so it can outrange the urchin but not the warlord or annihilator)
 Weapon: depthcharges (presumably fired via integrated newtons to achieve desired range) fired in the same manner as the catapult (the strider unit) these explode on impact with a unit or the ground while sinking in water (and exploding at the bottom) with good AoE and crater formation

I believe such a unit would be useful in a number of situations:
-breaking concentrated porc
-striking at large clusters of stationary or slow moving units (such as a clamball for example)
-firing over large obstacles or ridges due to high fire arc.
-terraforming (sea player could now mess up terrain for hovers, tear down terraform walls from a safe distance and even slowly blast his way across the map if left unopposed)


And on the subject of the flea why not let it float? the antiswarm frigate will finally have a use beyond the early stages of the game, (of course a speed nerf may be needed in order form preventing the flea from becoming op)

Really mojjj? Random memebombing threads? I expected better of you, there are so many better memes out there to bomb a thread like this, like tankcat, the lazer-ciborg-dinosaurs, the penguin army and sooo many others ... "son" i am dissapoint

parasiting units isnt hard, just give the unit x number of parasite points. When the flea touches the hitbox, the sticks to one of the points and becomes part of the unit's model. Theres lots of programming wizardry you can do to get it to work, its just a matter of wanting to do it.