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[quote]To change the ELO rating calculation that it only takes into account wins and ignore losses.[/quote]
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[quote]To change the ELO rating calculation that it only takes into account wins and ignore losses.[/quote]
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Then it will not be about the skill level anymore, it will be about the number of games played.
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Then it will not be about the skill level anymore, it will be about the number of games played.
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[quote]the ELO of the rest of the gang (basically all other players in the list/ladder) should become "deflated" in order that medium or median ELO stays say around 1500[/quote]
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[quote]the ELO of the rest of the gang (basically all other players in the list/ladder) should become "deflated" in order that medium or median ELO stays say around 1500[/quote]
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There
is
no
such
thing
as
"the
rest
of
the
ladder",
the
top-50
cutoff
is
absolutely
arbitrary.
That
means
your
"rest
of
the
list"
will
be
the
entire
playerbase.
Excluding
inactive
accounts
means
the
goal
to
achieve
elo
decay
fo
rinactive
players
wont
be
achieved.
Not
excluding
them
means
you
will
have
to
deflate
tens
of
thousands
accounts,
99%
of
which
are
dead.
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There
is
no
such
thing
as
"the
rest
of
the
ladder",
the
top-50
cutoff
is
absolutely
arbitrary.
That
means
your
"rest
of
the
list"
will
be
the
entire
playerbase.
Excluding
inactive
accounts
means
the
goal
to
achieve
elo
decay
for
inactive
players
wont
be
reached.
Not
excluding
them
means
you
will
have
to
deflate
tens
of
thousands
accounts,
99%
of
which
are
dead.
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[quote]I
believe
some
change
was
made
like
month
or
two
ago
and
inactive
players
don't
appear
in
the
ladder,
[/quote]
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[quote]I
believe
some
change
was
made
like
month
or
two
ago
and
inactive
players
don't
appear
in
the
ladder[/quote]
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It has been like that for ages.
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It has been like that for ages.
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[quote]High skill player has a lot to lose and almost nothing to win.[/quote]
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[quote]High skill player has a lot to lose and almost nothing to win.[/quote]
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He
also
has
high
chance
to
win
and
almost
no
chance
to
lose.
Thats
the
whole
fucking
point
of
elo.
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He
also
has
high
chance
to
win
and
almost
no
chance
to
lose.
Thats
the
whole
fucking
point
of
elo.
If
you
find
the
prediction
unfair
for
you,
then
its
either
because
your
elo
is
too
high
and
you
dont
deserve
it,
or
your
opponents
elo
is
too
low
and
you
just
dont
want
to
be
the
one
to
help
him
increase
it
to
where
it
should
be.
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[quote]Inactive part of the playerbase doesn't preserve their place in the rating and gradually goes down the ladder.[/quote]
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[quote]Inactive part of the playerbase doesn't preserve their place in the rating and gradually goes down the ladder.[/quote]
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As noted by Anarchid, your system doesnt account for loss of skill very well, as any player can fall to 1500 given enough time. In reality, rustiness works in a very different and more complex way. And the only way to reliably account for it is empirically - by playing games and performing worse than your old elo would suggest.
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As noted by Anarchid, your system doesnt account for loss of skill very well, as any player can fall to 1500 given enough time. In reality, rustiness works in a very different and more complex way. And the only way to reliably account for it is empirically - by playing games and performing worse than your old elo would suggest.
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I do agree that hiding of inactive players should work a bit more efficiently though. As i understand, right now it is enough to play any game, or possibly even just log in to become visible on the ladder. I believe the the player should be required to actually play at least 1 game of selected type in order to stay visible on the ladder.
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I do agree that hiding of inactive players should work a bit more efficiently though. As i understand, right now it is enough to play any game, or possibly even just log in to become visible on the ladder. I believe the the player should be required to actually play at least 1 game of selected type in order to stay visible on the ladder.
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Change ELO calculation?