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B666340 10 on Small Supreme Islands V2 (Multiplayer)

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1/11/2019 5:11:11 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
1/11/2019 5:04:15 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
1/11/2019 4:57:18 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
1/11/2019 4:56:18 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
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1 Problem with area cloaker in sea: 1 Problem with area cloaker in sea:
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3 no sea flea that's reasonably cheap. Ducks aren't faster than crymores which makes them unused. Since sea riots (IE: claymore) are disproportionately strong/fast compared to land riots, sea devolves into porc (the only thing that can reasonably counter the shitter) which then devolves into artillery spam/cloaked shit. 3 no sea flea that's reasonably cheap. Ducks aren't faster than crymores which makes them unused. Since sea riots (IE: claymore) are disproportionately strong/fast compared to land riots, sea devolves into porc (the only thing that can reasonably counter the shitter) which then devolves into artillery spam/cloaked shit.
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5 Every. 5 Every.
6 Single. 6 Single.
7 TIME. 7 TIME.
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9 Look at this shit: 9 Look at this shit:
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11 ||Name||Cost||Speed|| 11 ||Name||Cost||Speed||
12 ||Duck||80||84|| 12 ||Duck||80||84||
13 ||Dagger||80||144|| 13 ||Dagger||80||144||
14 ||Cutter||70||156|| 14 ||Cutter||70||156||
15 ||Hunter||100||126|| 15 ||Hunter||100||126||
16 ||Claymore||330||99|| 16 ||Claymore||330||99||
17 \n 17 \n
18 Comparison: 18 Comparison:
19 ||Name||Cost||Speed|| 19 ||Name||Cost||Speed||
20 ||Reaver||220||51|| 20 ||Reaver||220||51||
21 ||Outlaw||250||57|| 21 ||Outlaw||250||57||
22 ||Ripper||240||66|| 22 ||Ripper||240||66||
23 ||Mace||400||66|| 23 ||Mace||400||66||
24 ||Venom||200||81|| 24 ||Venom||200||81||
25 ||Redback||250||54|| 25 ||Redback||250||54||
26 ||Pyro||220||90|| 26 ||Pyro||220||90||
27 ||Ogre||520||69|| 27 ||Ogre||520||69||
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29 Claymore is ridiculous. It's faster than ducks and faster than most riots ( even Pyro which is a raider/riot!) . It is 22% faster than the fastest nonraider riot and [b]56%[/b] faster than the average land riot ( 63. 429) ! It would be nice if claymore got a damage nerf or better yet: a redesign. Repeating gauss cannon, remove tracking, or reduce AOE would probably kick it back into line. Perhaps even reduce the speed and cut the range by a bit. 29 Claymore is ridiculous. It's faster than ducks and faster than most riots ( even Pyro which is a raider/riot!) . It is 22% faster than the fastest nonraider riot and [b]56%[/b] faster than the average land riot ( 63. 429) ! What's even more absurd is that it is 50% faster than the other riot in the hover lab.
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31 It would be nice if claymore got a damage nerf or better yet: a redesign. Repeating gauss cannon, remove tracking, or reduce AOE would probably kick it back into line. Perhaps even reduce the speed and cut the range by a bit. Perhaps:
32 Speed: 99 -> 55-63 (~45% decrease)
33 Range: 270 -> 250
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35 This would allow ducks to go around it and would expose it to scallop/Buoy fire more.
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31 Area cloaker in sea is ridiculously strong for surface stuff, but has no benefit for amphs (who actually need it in today's team game meta). Imagine playing zk land, and enemy starts doing cloaked roaches. Now imagine trying to counter that with only glaives and bandits. That's the state of zk sea. 39 Area cloaker in sea is ridiculously strong for surface stuff, but has no benefit for amphs (who actually need it in today's team game meta). Imagine playing zk land, and enemy starts doing cloaked roaches. Now imagine trying to counter that with only glaives and bandits. That's the state of zk sea.