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lol watched replay. I understand now the complaint is not about domi's being OP (which they are not, watch the replay), but being unfun.
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lol watched replay. I understand now the complaint is not about domi's being OP (which they are not, watch the replay), but being unfun.
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[spoiler]
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[spoiler]
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you make con, 2 ogres
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you make con, 2 ogres
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squig makes scouts tanks (and ogre I think) with dart and scorchers, then switches to full domi production.
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squig makes scouts tanks (and ogre I think) with dart and scorchers, then switches to full domi production.
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upon
spoting
domi,
you
make
one
emissary,
and
with
initial
ogres
and
emissaries
you
do
quite
well
vs
initial
domi's
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5 |
upon
spotting
domi,
you
make
one
emissary,
and
with
initial
ogres
and
emissaries
you
do
quite
well
vs
initial
domi's
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But at that point you decide to spam minotaurs for some reason...
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But at that point you decide to spam minotaurs for some reason...
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squig naked expands while you dance a bit with the domi's, still making cost somehow with tanks.
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squig naked expands while you dance a bit with the domi's, still making cost somehow with tanks.
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squig has expanded nakedly while you didn't do a single raid.
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squig has expanded nakedly while you didn't do a single raid.
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But still squig's slight eco lead is mostly because you excessed 800 metal
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But still squig's slight eco lead is mostly because you excessed 800 metal
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the domi's finally capture an ogre and a minotaur, you resign...
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the domi's finally capture an ogre and a minotaur, you resign...
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[/spoiler]
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[/spoiler]
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domi's being unfun is a different thing though.
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domi's being unfun is a different thing though.
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I feel the problem lies mainly with tanks vs domi: tanks are really fun to play when you can win by attrition, keeping your heavy units alive and building up an army until you are unstoppable.
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I feel the problem lies mainly with tanks vs domi: tanks are really fun to play when you can win by attrition, keeping your heavy units alive and building up an army until you are unstoppable.
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However, domi's take this fun away from you by literally taking away your tanks...
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However, domi's take this fun away from you by literally taking away your tanks...
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With other facs you can have the satisfaction of wiping out the domi's with light units/scythes/snipers/air/bombs, but with tanks it is a bit harder.
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With other facs you can have the satisfaction of wiping out the domi's with light units/scythes/snipers/air/bombs, but with tanks it is a bit harder.
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Emissaries work, but since they are finicky and often hit them out of LOS you don't get the satisfaction of seeing the domi's explode (as in this game). I think almost anyone agrees that using arty to kill units is annoying for both sides.
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Emissaries work, but since they are finicky and often hit them out of LOS you don't get the satisfaction of seeing the domi's explode (as in this game). I think almost anyone agrees that using arty to kill units is annoying for both sides.
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What remains is the koda (and blitz?) option.
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What remains is the koda (and blitz?) option.
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I find burning domi's fun, especially if they were trying to cloak. koda being immune to burn also helps somewhat to survive against captured koda's.
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I find burning domi's fun, especially if they were trying to cloak. koda being immune to burn also helps somewhat to survive against captured koda's.
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The question is whether this is fun enough, and if it is possible to reliably pull this off with decent unit control... difficult is not fun.
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The question is whether this is fun enough, and if it is possible to reliably pull this off with decent unit control... difficult is not fun.
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fun things about koda vs domi:
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fun things about koda vs domi:
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- fire
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- fire
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- higher mobility, choosing fights
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- higher mobility, choosing fights
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- raiding
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- raiding
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- cutting off reinforcements
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- cutting off reinforcements
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- when kodaball is big enough, you can overwhelm/surround domi's
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- when kodaball is big enough, you can overwhelm/surround domi's
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unfun things about koda vs domi:
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unfun things about koda vs domi:
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- u cannot make (as much) heavy units :(
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- u cannot make (as much) heavy units :(
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- low reloadtime/targetting: koda's would shoot at first koda to be captured, have to wait for reload when arriving in range of domiball
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- low reloadtime/targetting: koda's would shoot at first koda to be captured, have to wait for reload when arriving in range of domiball
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- painful when you undercommit, enemy now has koda's
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- painful when you undercommit, enemy now has koda's
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Having some more replays of tanks(koda) vs domi can help to diagnose difficulties/unfunness in koda vs domi. Perhaps koda needs a buff, or a some changes to reload/damage/burn time to make it more fun to use (vs domi)
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Having some more replays of tanks(koda) vs domi can help to diagnose difficulties/unfunness in koda vs domi. Perhaps koda needs a buff, or a some changes to reload/damage/burn time to make it more fun to use (vs domi)
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B730069 2 on TitanDuel 2.2 (Multiplayer)