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[q] Next time somebody leaves me hanging in a game, they will bear significant responsibility for the loss. And I might get frusturated, for which the blame situation is kind of murky. But if I get toxic at them over it, then THAT is my fault. [/q]
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[q] Next time somebody leaves me hanging in a game, they will bear significant responsibility for the loss. And I might get frusturated, for which the blame situation is kind of murky. But if I get toxic at them over it, then THAT is my fault. [/q]
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now this is the point i have been trying to get over all the time and it is exactly my point of view as well.
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now this is the point i have been trying to get over all the time and it is exactly my point of view as well.
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since i seem to fail to get my point across, let`s take a concrete example:
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since i seem to fail to get my point across, let`s take a concrete example:
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from recent battle chat:
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from recent battle chat:
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(names changed, look the up yourself if you are interested)
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(names changed, look the up yourself if you are interested)
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[23:17] PlayerA: PlayerB 1 more time u make useless fac we will kick u
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[23:17] PlayerA: PlayerB 1 more time u make useless fac we will kick u
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[23:18] PlayerB: PlayerA you need worried about your self
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[23:18] PlayerB: PlayerA you need worried about your self
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[23:18] PlayerA: iam that is why i will kick u if in my team
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[23:18] PlayerA: iam that is why i will kick u if in my team
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By no means is the thread to kick PlayerA ok,
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By no means is the thread to kick PlayerA ok,
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but at the same time PlayerB fails to realise that they form a team and that their actions have direct consequences for playerA.
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but at the same time PlayerB fails to realise that they form a team and that their actions have direct consequences for playerA.
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It is overly clear that PlayerA`s kick-threads are socially problematic. This, as well as other abuse such as insults, has been expressed countless times. The second point, at least to me is by far less prominent in public discussion and moderation.
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It is overly clear that PlayerA`s kick-threads are socially problematic. This, as well as other abuse such as insults, has been expressed countless times. The second point, at least to me is by far less prominent in public discussion and moderation.
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I
don`t
think
PlayerB`s
right
not
to
be
abused
and
PlayerA`s
wish
for
a
team-partner
that
understands
their
responsibility
towards
PlayerA
are
mutually
exclusive.
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I
don`t
think
PlayerB`s
right
not
to
be
abused
and
PlayerA`s
wish
for
a
team-partner
that
understands
their
responsibility
towards
PlayerA
are
mutually
exclusive.
To
me
it
SEEMS
(
and
i
am
fully
aware
that
that
is
subjective)
that
the
common
procedure
would
be
to
(
rightfully)
warn
PlayerA
not
to
kick
people
while
PlayerB
gets
ignored
mostly.
This
has
the
tendency
to
annoy
PlayerA
even
more
as
they
feel
marginalized
towards
PlayerB.
This
is
the
problem
i
was
trying
to
adress
when
i
said:
"It
was
about
trying
to
get
you
to
move
at
least
an
inch
to
give
all
the
frustrated
players
at
least
the
feeling
that
their
problems
are
noted
and
taken
serious.
"
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@GoogleFrog
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thank you. what you say makes a lot of sense and it contains a lot of thoughts that i have not considered yet.
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(need to go to bed, if i have anything to add i will do that later.)
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