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12/13/2020 11:49:36 AMGBrankPRO_Dregs before revert after revert
12/13/2020 11:44:15 AMGBrankPRO_Dregs before revert after revert
12/13/2020 11:41:35 AMGBrankPRO_Dregs before revert after revert
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1 Last night after a few games with @RyMarq I made a passing comment that @Godde and @Manu12's positions on the ladder were protected in some way, thanks to WHR inflation. Reflecting on my words and the games I had with @RyMarq, I figured out the depths of what I meant. 1 Last night after a few games with @RyMarq I made a passing comment that @Godde and @Manu12's positions on the ladder were protected in some way, thanks to WHR inflation. Reflecting on my words and the games I had with @RyMarq, I figured out the depths of what I meant.
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3 In my 4 games with @RyMarq, I won 3 and he won 1. This netted me a -50 Current rating. From a WHR perspective, it's not worth me playing against this guy. I'll never continue to progress up the ladder. This is in part due to my own WHR being inflated. But then I thought more about the situation. Because their WHR is so high, @Godde / @Manu12 likely don't even often get matched up with players in the WHR bracket that can substantially diminish theirs. Do they have an equivalent of @RyMarq? Is that me, randy or izi? Has WHR inflation made it too much of a risk for them to play against us, thus leaving us forced to take matches from potential WHR assassins and inevitably never take their protected spot? 3 In my 4 games with @RyMarq, I won 3 and he won 1. This netted me a -50 Current rating. From a WHR perspective, it's not worth me playing against this guy. I'll never continue to progress up the ladder. This is in part due to my own WHR being inflated. But then I thought more about the situation. Because their WHR is so high, @Godde / @Manu12 likely don't even often get matched up with players in the WHR bracket that can substantially diminish theirs. Do they have an equivalent of @RyMarq? Is that me, randy or izi? Has WHR inflation made it too much of a risk for them to play against us, thus leaving us forced to take matches from potential WHR assassins and inevitably never take their protected spot?
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5 I watched my CR go up past 3300 this week. It was higher than @Godde's, especially after me and randy gave him a night of manhandling. But in the back of my mind, I knew it didn't mean anything because my ladder rating was barely moving an inch and @Godde's ladder and CR were barely moving down facing us. Though, that's a seperate observation. 5 I watched my CR go up past 3300 this week. It was higher than @Godde's, especially after me and randy gave him a night of manhandling. But in the back of my mind, I knew it didn't mean anything because my ladder rating was barely moving an inch and @Godde's ladder and CR were barely moving down facing us. Though, that's a seperate observation.
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7 I wonder if @DeinFreund has anything to say on the nature of the issue. The greater the WHR inflation has become, the more it has undermined the matchmaking algorithm, preventing the #1/#2 spots (roughly 200 LR higher than #3) from fighting incredibly skilled up-and-comers from the top 20 who provide great risk to me, but none to them through omission. 7 I wonder if @DeinFreund has anything to say on the nature of the issue. The greater the WHR inflation has become, the more it has undermined the matchmaking algorithm, preventing the #1/#2 spots (roughly 200 LR higher than #3) from fighting incredibly skilled up-and-comers from the top 20 who provide great risk to me, but none to them through omission.
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9 Edit: Another way of wording it is that people in and around my position (randy got beat by rymarq too recently) are prone to matches that are against very skilled players who haven't yet "benefitted" from inflation, and our ratings get toasted when this happens, but the top positions are denied this "inverse opportunity" as much. 9 Edit: Another way of wording it is that people in and around my position (randy got beat by rymarq too recently) are prone to matches that are against very skilled players who haven't yet "benefitted" from inflation, and our ratings get toasted when this happens, but the top positions are denied this "inverse opportunity" as much.
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11 Inb4 "just don't lose to these players". Unrealistic, people get better before their WHR catches up and with all the riot-raiders being questionably OP these days, it's really easy to get taken by surprise.