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B1009743 2 on Vantage v1.2 (Multiplayer)

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1 Just to make this clear, rover and cloaky are my favourite factories and i think rover is overall a bit on the weaker side. 1 Just to make this clear, rover and cloaky are my favourite factories and i think rover is overall a bit on the weaker side.
2 I am less concerned with the raider-matchup between those 2, where I agree with @RyMarq. Plus I am torn on that issue as I will explain later. 2 I am less concerned with the raider-matchup between those 2, where I agree with @RyMarq. Plus I am torn on that issue as I will explain later.
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4 @Dregs are you interested in some exhibition-matches to generate more specific data? Because my personal expierience is the opposite of yours: Everytime I go in with glaives into scorchers i get wrecked. Maybe it`s my micro. This encounter is the only one where I set glaives to fight-move so they keep their distance. I was never able to make cost otherwise. If i am on the rover-side, I would make fencers and maybe 1 domi for the inevitable knight to show up... 4 @Dregs are you interested in some exhibition-matches to generate more specific data? Because my personal expierience is the opposite of yours: Everytime I go in with glaives into scorchers i get wrecked. Maybe it`s my micro. This encounter is the only one where I set glaives to fight-move so they keep their distance. I was never able to make cost otherwise. If i am on the rover-side, I would make fencers and maybe 1 domi for the inevitable knight to show up...
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6 As said, i am open to change my opinion. I would suggest a bunch of games on even, meaning flat ground. If you wreck my scorchers point-blank with glaives reliably i will give in without hesitation. Still, there are other things to consider as well: 6 As said, i am open to change my opinion. I would suggest a bunch of games on even, meaning flat ground. If you wreck my scorchers point-blank with glaives reliably i will give in without hesitation. Still, there are other things to consider as well:
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8 Where I definitely agree with you is that bandits, ducks and daggers are REALLY bad for scorchers to fight, especially bandits. But since Fencer exists, I am not sure if it is a good idea to make scorcher better against raiders. 8 Where I definitely agree with you is that bandits, ducks and daggers are REALLY bad for scorchers to fight, especially bandits. But since Fencer exists, I am not sure if it is a good idea to make scorcher better against raiders.
9 Scorcher has incredible wrecking-potential. It was my first favourite unit. It would also be more consistent with rovers as blitzkrieg-factory if you could rely more on offensive scorcher-use instead of defensive fencer-pushing. On the other hand, rover has acces to ravager as another kind of raider. This is a very complex topic and i need a bit more time to think things through. 9 Scorcher has incredible wrecking-potential. It was my first favourite unit. It would also be more consistent with rovers as blitzkrieg-factory if you could rely more on offensive scorcher-use instead of defensive fencer-pushing. On the other hand, rover has acces to ravager as another kind of raider. This is a very complex topic and i need a bit more time to think things through.
10 My main reason why i think this game is a bit bad as an example is that the map has this valley in the middle, which should logically be beneficial to bots and a hindrance for vehicles and hovers. So I think it`s not a good basis to argue about the matchup. 10 My main reason why i think this game is a bit bad as an example is that the map has this valley in the middle, which should logically be beneficial to bots and a hindrance for vehicles and hovers. So I think it`s not a good basis to argue about the matchup.
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12 As said, give me some time and play some evaluation-games on Alien Desert or so. If you can get @Godde or a comparable opponent for those it would be even better. ATM I don`t have the energy to do it unfortunately, as covid might just take another relative of mine away, so my mind is somewhere else and I don`t expect to perform well for some days. 12 As said, give me some time and play some evaluation-games on Alien Desert or so. If you can get @Godde or a comparable opponent for those it would be even better. ATM I don`t have the energy to do it unfortunately, as covid might just take another relative of mine away, so my mind is somewhere else and I don`t expect to perform well for some days. In fact, i barely have the motivation and energy to write this here and make my points more consistant.
13 So please, all i can ask for is for you to take my thoughts into consideration. :) 13 So please, all i can ask for is for you to take my thoughts into consideration. :)
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