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Anir’s Guide on Free for All (FFA) – Games

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1 [s]Okay first things first. We are prepared to look the other way if people who have been absent for a long time want a fresh start but this post isn't really giving me that vibe, so @Remembrance why are you not on your original account?[/s] I see this was discussed in another thread. 1 [s]Okay first things first. We are prepared to look the other way if people who have been absent for a long time want a fresh start but this post isn't really giving me that vibe, so @Remembrance why are you not on your original account?[/s]
2 EDIT: I see this was discussed in another thread.
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3 That having been said... 4 That having been said...
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5 I think you are misinterpreting @Anir's position. In team games we do not insist that everybody plays 100% tryhard all of the time but we do insist that they make something along the lines of a good-faith attempt to play to their win condition (as opposed to griefing their team and assisting the opposing team's win condition). This is a necessary pre-requisite for the game being fun for all involved, which is our primary motivation. 6 I think you are misinterpreting @Anir's position. In team games we do not insist that everybody plays 100% tryhard all of the time but we do insist that they make something along the lines of a good-faith attempt to play to their win condition (as opposed to griefing their team and assisting the opposing team's win condition). This is a necessary pre-requisite for the game being fun for all involved, which is our primary motivation.
6 [spoiler]I'm not going to attempt to define exactly what "good-faith" means here. Would probably drag this thread off-topic.[/spoiler] 7 [spoiler]I'm not going to attempt to define exactly what "good-faith" means here. Would probably drag this thread off-topic.[/spoiler]
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8 In FFA games @Anir is saying, and I generally agree, that more or less the same thing applies. You don't have to tryhard but you do have to be playing in a way that lines up with making *yourself* win the *current* game. The difference is that in FFA it is much easier to talk yourself into thinking assisting one particular opponent to win is OK, because they are not your only opponent. Nevertheless if people routinely do this it makes a mockery of the game and results in less fun for everybody (else) involved. 9 In FFA games @Anir is saying, and I generally agree, that more or less the same thing applies. You don't have to tryhard but you do have to be playing in a way that lines up with making *yourself* win the *current* game. The difference is that in FFA it is much easier to talk yourself into thinking assisting one particular opponent to win is OK, because they are not your only opponent. Nevertheless if people routinely do this it makes a mockery of the game and results in less fun for everybody (else) involved.
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11 tl;dr: playing some meme unit composition in FFA is okay, perhaps even more ok than in teams because you're only letting yourself down, but helping *specific* other players to win at the expense of yourself and the rest of the players is not okay 12 tl;dr: playing some meme unit composition in FFA is okay, perhaps even more ok than in teams because you're only letting yourself down, but helping *specific* other players to win at the expense of yourself and the rest of the players is not okay
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