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Map Real Europe V4

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1 [q]is overstating how well this map delivers a playable experience for all concerned.[/q] 1 [q]is overstating how well this map delivers a playable experience for all concerned.[/q]
2 Well from what i understand about map design, it shouldn't be working [u]at all[/u]. And yet, it's fairly popular and kinda non-awful. I think an arbitrary arrangement of asymmetric obstacles and start positions fails by default. So i think this map has to be doing something unnoticed but important. 2 Well from what i understand about map design, it shouldn't be working [u]at all[/u]. And yet, it's fairly popular and kinda non-awful. I think an arbitrary arrangement of asymmetric obstacles and start positions fails by default. So i think this map has to be doing something unnoticed but important.
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4 [q]It would not surprise me to see a random generator which produced asymmetric maps without just plopping players in the middle do better[/q] 4 [q]It would not surprise me to see a random generator which produced asymmetric maps without just plopping players in the middle do better[/q]
5 Sounds like an interesting thing to try. In my experience in other games with map generators, "place-like" asymmetric random maps tend to not deliver, even if all start positions are on edges. 5 Sounds like an interesting thing to try. In my experience in other games with map generators, "place-like" asymmetric random maps tend to not deliver, even if all start positions are on edges.
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7 Perhaps, except HOMM3? That absolutely *did* work.
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7 [q]Kolmogorov and Blindside seem like a more promising place to start in any case. [/q] 9 [q]Kolmogorov and Blindside seem like a more promising place to start in any case. [/q]
8 Kolmogorov is semi-symmetric. Both are less popular, and i think also - surprisingly! - less fun. 10 Kolmogorov is semi-symmetric. Both are less popular, and i think also - surprisingly! - less fun.