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1v1 games should not alter team balance

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7/7/2022 1:44:37 PMAUrankAdminAquanim before revert after revert
7/7/2022 1:44:29 PMAUrankAdminAquanim before revert after revert
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7/7/2022 1:42:16 PMAUrankAdminAquanim before revert after revert
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1 [quote]Well you could change the autohost to "no-elo" but most of the players are in a non-autohost lobby and you don't go to the autohost to wait for players while there are several players in the non-autohost lobby - so you can wait yourself to death...[/quote] 1 [quote]Well you could change the autohost to "no-elo" but most of the players are in a non-autohost lobby and you don't go to the autohost to wait for players while there are several players in the non-autohost lobby - so you can wait yourself to death...[/quote]
2 This has already been done, and since then there has been a definite shift towards seeding non-autohost lobbies. We are aware that making FFA truly no-elo will require more than modifying the autohost. 2 This has already been done, and since then there has been a definite shift towards seeding non-autohost lobbies. We are aware that making FFA truly no-elo will require more than modifying the autohost.
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4 I think that there are two different questions here. 4 I think that there are two different questions here.
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6 I think that abuses of the system like throwing away casual elo to other players in 1v1 or FFA games is a problem, and in the past it's been a problem addressed by moderator action. 6 I think that abuses of the system like throwing away casual elo to other players in 1v1 or FFA games is a problem, and in the past it's been a problem addressed by moderator action.
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8 I do not think it is obvious that, [b]outside of deliberate abuse cases[/b], 1v1 and FFA elo being linked to the rating used to balance casual teams games is a problem. 8 I do not think it is obvious that, [b]outside of deliberate abuse cases[/b], 1v1 and FFA elo being linked to the rating used to balance casual teams games is a problem.
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10 I am coming around to the opinion that the best solution to people abusing FFA to manipulate rating is to make FFA always no-elo. (Or stick it in its own rating category, but nobody has mana for that.) I am not as convinced that forcing custom room 1v1 to be no-elo is a better solution than moderator action in the rare cases that it is significantly abused. 10 I am coming around to the opinion that the best solution to people abusing FFA to manipulate rating is to make FFA always no-elo. (Or stick it in its own rating category, but nobody has mana for that.) I am not as convinced that forcing custom room 1v1 to be no-elo is a better solution than moderator action in the rare cases that it is significantly abused.
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12 [quote]Is [forcing FFA to be no-elo] easy to implement?[/quote] 12 [quote]Is [forcing FFA to be no-elo] easy to implement?[/quote]
13 In theory, I believe it is not too difficult. In practice, I am not sure what is going on with making server updates at the moment. 13 In theory, I believe it is not too difficult. In practice, I am not sure what is going on with making any server updates at the moment.