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This is a dump from the earlier discord discussion for visibility. Essentially, before an overhaul of the ladders gets done, there are some low hanging fruit tasks that would make the current situation make more sense for little effort.
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This is a dump from the earlier discord discussion for visibility. Essentially, before an overhaul of the ladders gets done, there are some low hanging fruit tasks that would make the current situation make more sense for little effort.
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[b]Competitive (Matchmaker)[/b] is majority 1v1s, and 1v1ers cite not enjoying staking their elo on Sortie or Battle. "Matchmaker" is a misnomer because we have 1v1 Pro host.
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[b]Competitive (Matchmaker)[/b] is majority 1v1s, and 1v1ers cite not enjoying staking their elo on Sortie or Battle. "Matchmaker" is a misnomer because we have 1v1 Pro host.
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Proposal: Rename this to [b]1v1 (Ranked)[/b]. Change Sortie/Battle elo to the teams ladder, or just remove them.
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Proposal: Rename this to [b]1v1 (Ranked)[/b]. Change Sortie/Battle elo to the teams ladder, or just remove them.
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[b]Casual (Custom)[/b] has been many gamemodes, but FFA has been / is to be divorced from the mode. It would make sense if 1v1 matches were also removed from this calculation.
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[b]Casual (Custom)[/b] has been many gamemodes, but FFA has been / is to be divorced from the mode. It would make sense if 1v1 matches were also removed from this calculation.
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Proposal: Rename this to [b]Teams (Ranked)[/b]. Remove 1v1 games from the rating here.
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Proposal: Rename this to [b]Teams (Ranked)[/b]. Remove 1v1 games from the rating here.
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Arguments against the lobpot / teams being ranked ignore the fact that (the origin of this discussion) this ladder has been the only way for high skill players coming from the 1v1 Ranked ladder to gain purple status - a competitive badge by definition. So either 1v1 has to be more generous in rewarding competitive play, or we label teams exactly as it is.
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Arguments against the lobpot / teams being ranked ignore the fact that (the origin of this discussion) this ladder has been the only way for high skill players coming from the 1v1 Ranked ladder to gain purple status - a competitive badge by definition. So either 1v1 has to be more generous in rewarding competitive play, or we label teams exactly as it is.
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Proposal:
Make
"casual"
actually
casual
-
Have
a
no
elo
lobpot.
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Proposal:
Make
"casual"
actually
casual
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Have
a
no
elo
lobpot
in
addition
to
Ranked
teams.
For
clarity's
sake,
have
a
no
elo
version
of
every
ranked
mode.
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To aid all of the above and make it much easier to clearly see what you are getting into, changes to the lobby are suggested.
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To aid all of the above and make it much easier to clearly see what you are getting into, changes to the lobby are suggested.
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/TWuC2Mz.png[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/TWuC2Mz.png[/img]
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However, as @Aquanim suggests, this need not be headers. It could be drop-down filters or some other navigation method.
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However, as @Aquanim suggests, this need not be headers. It could be drop-down filters or some other navigation method.
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Game mode / ladder disambiguation