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Even putting aside the point TinySpider quoted about evasion of too-rigid rules, I don't think it is feasible to write a set of rules which will unambiguously set out what is and is not permissible in verbal conduct. Even in a formal legal context, where many professionals over the years have spent their life's work on laying out the rules, cases are still decided by the judgement of juries and judges. We are hardly going to improve, or even match, the thoroughness and rigor of the entire legal profession.
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Even putting aside the point TinySpider quoted about evasion of too-rigid rules, I don't think it is feasible to write a set of rules which will unambiguously set out what is and is not permissible in verbal conduct. Even in a formal legal context, where many professionals over the years have spent their life's work on laying out the rules, cases are still decided by the judgement of juries and judges. We are hardly going to improve, or even match, the thoroughness and rigor of the entire legal profession.
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That having been said, in grey areas of the Code of Conduct such as "just how much foul language are you allowed to get away with", the moderators do make an effort to have conversations with people, and issue informal and formal warnings, before escalating to mutes and bans.
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That having been said, in grey areas of the Code of Conduct such as "just how much foul language are you allowed to get away with", the moderators do make an effort to have conversations with people, and issue informal and formal warnings, before escalating to mutes and bans.
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To
take
a
concrete
example,
I
know
that
both
myself
and
other
moderators
have
interacted
along
these
lines
with
@Jadem
several
times
before
the
current
ban.
I
get
that
it's
not
laid
out
unambiguously
in
the
Code
of
Conduct,
but
I
think
that
we
had
made
it
pretty
unambiguous
and
clear
in
direct
conversations
that
calling
people
"cunts"
on
the
regular
is
a
problem.
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To
take
a
concrete
example,
I
know
that
both
myself
and
other
moderators
have
interacted
along
these
lines
with
@Jadem
several
times
before
the
current
ban.
I
get
that
it's
not
laid
out
unambiguously
in
the
Code
of
Conduct,
but
I
think
that
we
had
made
it
pretty
unambiguous
and
clear
in
direct
conversations
that,
for
example,
calling
people
"cunts"
on
the
regular
is
a
problem.
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Personally I think we are all better off with the moderators having those kind of conversations with people directly, rather than lawyer-esque wrangling over the exact wording of a (necessarily much larger) Code of Conduct that is probably *still* ambiguous.
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Personally I think we are all better off with the moderators having those kind of conversations with people directly, rather than lawyer-esque wrangling over the exact wording of a (necessarily much larger) Code of Conduct that is probably *still* ambiguous.
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Ambiguity in mod rules and decisions