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B1684841 14 on FolsomDamDeluxeV4 (Multiplayer)

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7/31/2023 3:00:12 AMDErankdunno before revert after revert
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1 In this game, shockleys basically single-handedly defeated: 1 In this game, shockleys basically single-handedly defeated:
2 * 4 Palas 2 * 4 Palas
3 * A detri, which was then domi'd 3 * A detri, which was then domi'd
4 * A giant shieldball 4 * A giant shieldball
5 * Various funnels and merlins 5 * Various funnels and merlins
6 Shockley is a generic hard counter to virtually all units and heavily discourages using armies late game. It also introduces game-deciding randomness (sure it's partly prediction skill, but there remains a large element of chance). The entire mid-to-late game in large teams revolves around Shockley IMO. 6 Shockley is a generic hard counter to virtually all units and heavily discourages using armies late game. It also introduces game-deciding randomness (sure it's partly prediction skill, but there remains a large element of chance). The entire mid-to-late game in large teams revolves around Shockley IMO.
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8 Lobster is not enough; Shockley is cheap and they'll just spam more until you eventually slip up. Funnel is too expensive since a single one easily falls victim to this general purpose counter too. 8 Lobster is not enough; Shockley is cheap and they'll just spam more until you eventually slip up. Funnel is too expensive since a single one easily falls victim to this general purpose counter too. Running away on every silo launch isn't a very fun minigame, and it neuters your army offensively ( and sometimes the launch sound gets lost when there's too much going on, I think) .
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10 I like the idea of making it disarm instead of EMP, or [i]much[/i] shorter stun time (15s?), and/or cost increase. Shields might need a concurrent nerf. 10 I like the idea of making it disarm instead of EMP, or [i]much[/i] shorter stun time (15s?), and/or cost increase. Shields might need a concurrent nerf.
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12 @raaar: I suggest felon vs ramped snitch. Sometimes picket works too (if they're not too fast), or wall. 12 @raaar: I suggest felon vs ramped snitch. Sometimes picket works too (if they're not too fast), or wall.