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Matchmaker balancing for uneven team counts seems broken

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10/1/2023 9:59:08 PMUSrankNobbester before revert after revert
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1 @Brackman I'm primarily going off of personal experience that the team balance is heavily shifted in the case of small, uneven teams with multiple high-elo players. I suggest you look at the team composition in the battle I linked and some that Kosynthary shared. The more statistically valid sample malric shared seems to indicate this is a consistent issue. If you can point me at the exact balancing logic we use I would be happy to take a look - I'll probably go find it myself at some point. 1 @Brackman I'm primarily going off of personal experience that the team balance is heavily shifted from typical in the case of small, uneven teams with multiple high-elo players. I suggest you look at the team composition in the battle I linked and some that Kosynthary shared. The more statistically valid sample malric shared seems to indicate this is a consistent issue. If you can point me at the exact balancing logic we use I would be happy to take a look - I'll probably go find it myself at some point.
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3 I generally agree with you that we are likely better off not modifying the actual elo system given its desirable properties. I'm just perceiving that the way we are using that elo balancing seems questionable in this fairly common scenario. Hence the suggestions towards balancing in-game resources and restricting team sizes to those that seem to function more reasonably. 3 I generally agree with you that we are likely better off not modifying the actual elo system given its desirable properties. I'm just perceiving that the way we are using that elo balancing seems questionable in this fairly common scenario. Hence the suggestions towards balancing in-game resources and restricting team sizes to those that seem to function more reasonably.