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Spiders vs Tanks (Ogre+Emissary beats them all?)

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3/18/2024 12:51:42 AMUSrankcabinboy before revert after revert
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1 While it's true that hermit has higher range than ogre, this matters less on a hilly map like Ravaged where taking the wrong walk uphill can be met with ogre volleys, especially given that hermits require a direct line of fire. Hermits are also too specialized compared to redbacks, as they aren't able to handle the kodachis that were often partnered with ogres, and they definitely wouldn't be able to remove any minotaurs if the tank player decided to build any. 1 While it's true that hermit has higher range than ogre, this matters less on a hilly map like Ravaged where taking the wrong walk uphill can be met with ogre volleys, especially given that hermits require a direct line of fire. Hermits are also too specialized compared to redbacks, as they aren't able to handle the kodachis that were often partnered with ogres, and they definitely wouldn't be able to threaten any minotaurs if the tank player decided to build any.
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3 Range matters more in the case of crab which is ideally paired with a spire, in which Ravaged's hills become much less meaningful. Abuse spirejank well enough and most tanks can't even reliably target the crab, ogre being the most realistic exception, but good luck to any ogres trying to get in range. Range also matters more in the case of recluse as it is not a frontlining unit and can fire beyond walls. 3 Range matters more in the case of crab which is ideally paired with a spire, in which Ravaged's hills become much less meaningful. Abuse spirejank well enough and most tanks can't even reliably target the crab, ogre being the most realistic exception, but good luck to any ogres trying to get in range. Range also matters more in the case of recluse as it is not a frontlining unit and can fire beyond walls.
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5 Thus, I have doubts that 1.6k in hermit would achieve more than one crab or equivalent cost in redback + recluse, at least in this particular map and matchup. 5 Thus, I have doubts that 1.6k in hermit would achieve more than one crab or equivalent cost in redback + recluse, at least in this particular map and matchup.