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Magpie is not countered by Ettin or at least any less than 4 Ettin

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4/24/2025 2:18:16 PMAUrankSortale before revert after revert
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1 @Aquanim asserted that ettins can shred magpies 1 @Aquanim asserted that ettins can shred magpies
2 \n 2 \n
3 testing revealed this to be false 3 testing revealed this to be false
4 \n 4 \n
5 here's my video people can replicate them 5 here's my video people can replicate them
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7 \n 7 \n
8 https://youtu.be/DJk4Tfdp52Y 8 https://youtu.be/DJk4Tfdp52Y
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10 \n 10 \n
11 Comparing similar metal amount on both ettin and magpie, with a slight edge to magpie as ettin is suppose to counter air 11 Comparing similar metal amount on both ettin and magpie, with a slight edge to magpie as ettin is suppose to counter air
12 \n 12 \n
13 Magpie was selected as they were flying, no special formation 13 Magpie was selected as they were flying, no special formation
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15 Magpies were queued up to target ettins one by one as all air players should do 15 Magpies were queued up to target ettins one by one as all air players should do
16 Ettins was attack moved to the front as players tend to use them 16 Ettins was attack moved to the front as players tend to use them
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18 Magpies are allowed to repair to full after each run as is normal practice for air player 18 Magpies are allowed to repair to full after each run as is normal practice for air player
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20 Ettins were not repair to full but the result should not have change much even if they were 20 Ettins were not repair to full but the result should not have change much even if they were
21 \n 21 \n
22 Results are as follow 22 Results are as follow
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24 \n 24 \n
25 || Cumulative death || 1 Ettin || 3 Magpies|| 25 || Cumulative death || 1 Ettin || 3 Magpies||
26 || 1st pass || 0|| 0|| 26 || 1st pass || 0|| 0||
27 || 2nd pass || 1|| 0|| 27 || 2nd pass || 1|| 0||
28 \n 28 \n
29 \n 29 \n
30 || Cumulative death || 2 Ettin || 5 Magpies|| 30 || Cumulative death || 2 Ettin || 5 Magpies||
31 || 1st pass || 1|| 1|| 31 || 1st pass || 1|| 1||
32 || 2nd pass || 2|| 1|| 32 || 2nd pass || 2|| 1||
33 \n 33 \n
34 \n 34 \n
35 || Cumulative death || 3 Ettin || 7 Magpies|| 35 || Cumulative death || 3 Ettin || 7 Magpies||
36 || 1st pass || 1|| 2|| 36 || 1st pass || 1|| 2||
37 || 2nd pass || 2|| 4|| 37 || 2nd pass || 2|| 4||
38 || 3rd pass || 3|| 4|| 38 || 3rd pass || 3|| 4||
39 \n 39 \n
40 \n 40 \n
41 I mis-manage this one but seem to be when ettin start making cost 41 I mis-manage this one but seem to be when ettin start making cost
42 || Cumulative death || 4 Ettin || 10 Magpies|| 42 || Cumulative death || 4 Ettin || 10 Magpies||
43 || 1st pass || 1|| 4|| 43 || 1st pass || 1|| 4||
44 \n 44 \n
45 \n 45 \n
46 \n 46 \n
47 So as we can see to actually stop magpie metal for metal, you need to invest 2000 metal into Ettin and even then the air player can just go elsewhere leaving you with useless AA 47 So as we can see to actually stop magpie metal for metal, you need to invest 2000 metal into Ettin and even then the air player can just go elsewhere leaving you with useless AA
48 \n 48 \n
49 so Ettin is not the counter to Magpie 49 so Ettin is not the counter to Magpie
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51 Artemis is counter to Magpie, but Artemis counter almost all air units, 51 Artemis is counter to Magpie, but Artemis counter almost all air units,
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53 I assert that Magpie remain without adequate counter 53 I assert that aside from Artemis, Magpie is only counter by heavy shield or AA under shield