Zero-K v1.6.3.5 - Sea and Rogue Fix

The most noticeable features of this versions is a balance pass for sea and a fix for the Rogue buff. The projectile speed buff for Rogue was accidentally not applied due to a bug. This has been fixed. We've also made other fixes and balance changes, including engine stability fixes that are not listed here.

Balance

Shogun:

• Cost 4K -> 5K
• HP 12K -> 8K
• Reload time 10s -> 15s (DPS 450 -> 300)

Corsair:

• Cost 220 -> 240
• Speed 3.2 -> 2.7
• Damage 512 -> 234
• Reduced spray angle and projectiles per shot.
• Reload time (for each shotgun) 2.4s -> 2.0s

The weapon changes make its shotgun the same as that of a Scallop.

Cutter:

• Slightly increased size.
• Reload time 1.5s -> 2.0s
• Range 330 -> 260
• Damage 34 -> 35

Hunter:

• Increased model and collision size by a bit less than 50%.

Mistral:

• Damage 280 -> 200 per rocket.

Siren:

• Health 4000 -> 3750

Envoy:

• Health 2500 -> 2000

Rogue:

• Fixed the bug that prevented the projectile speed buff from 170 -> 200 taking effect.
• Health 570 -> 580

Glaive:

• Speed 3.9 -> 3.85

Note that Glaive had 3.8 speed and cost 65 metal this time last year.

Increased Gremlin DPS by 5.4%.

Tarantula buff:

• Cost 400 -> 380.
• Damage 220 -> 260.
• Projectile velocity increased 22%.

It has much less DPS/cost than Vandal so the change is probably safe.

Phoenix:

• Health 650 -> 720
• Possibly increased the spray angle of its bombs.

Early Engineer commander nerfs:

• Level 1 buildpower 12 -> 10. Other levels are unchanged so you now consistently gain 2 BP per level up to 20.
• Build range 250 -> 220 but with a bonus of +12 per level up to a maximum of 280.

Other commanders:

• Build range 128 -> 144

Sight range buffs:

• Dirtbag 300 -> 350
• Mason 255 -> 273
• Welder 280 -> 300

Added overkill prevention for Stinger and Grizzly.

Interface

• Reduced Grizzly laser brightness.
• Reduced some spider reply volumes.
• Fixed some burst damage displays on the UI.
• Moved HUD skin options to advanced options.
• Selection rank now only inherits through commander morph.
• Updated old avatars.
• Fixed some units failing to fire at wrecks (such as Tremor).

Previous Versions

• Locust fire angle 90 -> 135
• Optimized Tremor.
• Fixed Adv. Radar animation.
• Fixed the double cloak cost bug.
• Fixed Solar AI.
• Fixed overhead icons for captured units.

Why the rouge HP buff? I never remember talking about rouge HP being a problem. Its always their inability to hit things that was. HP buff just makes it harder for their counters to kill them. Remove!

Edit: Realized it was 10 HP. lob lob

Some of the changes are ... questionable. (Rouge was already good, econ com was already bad, corsair was always countered by cutters)

Oh well. Time to abuse them until they fix it it becomes the new normal and everyone becomes fine with it being OP/useless.

PS: Please relabel Corsair as anti-heavy instead of riot (well it might not be anti-heavy anymore, because it looks completely useless, but oh well)

Sprung ohh...thanks. Read a change as a change in range.

psaniac everything you said was wrong in that statement. Rouge was trash, eco con was the only one serious players used, corsair spam beat everything except for subs.

A nerf to surface ships to put their cost-effectiveness closer to land units (but still stronger) is a good thing.

I think you've gone too far with it in some cases, though, namely shogun. It seems it's cost-effectiveness at the moment is similar to that of merlin, which is a land-based strider. Sea people will just spam envoys instead.

And the increase in ship sizes may seem visually wrong if they still have raider-like HP.

5000/3500 = 1.43, that's 43% more not 25.

Shogun's faster but much less maneuverable. It's also a big target.

Either way, envoys seem to be a much better investment.

A way to make battleships feel more like battleships without breaking balance is to make them stronger but considerably slower than the others.

Shogun and Reef could have fundamentally different weights.

Currently, land striders have three and a half tiers of growth:
Basic striders - dante, scorpion, merlin
Intermediate striders - funnelweb, also merlin because you rarely make merlin before dante
Paladin tier
Detriment tier

Sea striders (before the last change) were all basic-tier, and then the amphibious Detriment which is Detriment tier.

So, what if Shogun was Paladin of the seas? Or idk, maybe some version of Reef could do that.

Shogun was Paladin in everything but the cost!

That said, maybe it could also get an activable weapon.