This is why i hate zk

Raiders don't beat skirmishers so all that remains is skirmishers and porc. Back when we had affordable facs at least you could try some different strategies.

Eco doesn't just grow from trees. You build the counter to your enemy's unit to gain a temporary unit advantage that allows you to raid economy. If you never counter your enemy you can never gain the army advantage for a push.

And by countering I don't mean 150% attrition. A warrior can kill many times its cost in glaives.

Hm, didn't think of that. Thanks for the tip.

Skirm-K + stinger meta + RPS = win

But really,
I think games like this show how OP recluses are. Notice how they beat bandits, rouges, and thugs with almost 0 attrition. Their leveler sidearm is quite nice. The only thing that has kept recluses down is the fact that the rest of the spider factory is so trash.

I understand that as long as all units are different, more factories will nearly always allow better play and thus will be used. I just don't understand why we have to force 1v1 into this "beat your opponent with the limited toolset you chose in pre-game", whereas teams and FFA give you access to the whole range of units with factory costs being negligible. If the player is supposed to be penalized for needing to use a wider range of units, why make it dependent on the game mode and map?

DeinFreund, 800 is still really cheap. Air factories would make cost in the AA they forced, making them a little too mandatory. You are not forced to stick to one thing as 800m is nothing. I feel like if factories always cost 800 you would not even be considering a reduction in factory cost as a solution to any problem.

It also feels like you are completely overreacting to Recluse.

quote: the way raiders counter skirmishers or assaults doesn't scale as the numbers grow on both sides because dodging becomes very unreliable.

It becomes less efficient, but unless there are riot escorts, it still works well enough, i think.

At low densities (vs one, or two recluses), a single Glaive can kill many times its cost in Recluse. In fact, killing one Recluse is five times cost, 60 vs 300! But if you send one glaive against five recluses, you will kill none. And if you send five Glaives against five Recluses, you will kill some but not all of them, probably. But if you send ten, i think the Recluses are done. The counter efficiency went from 500% to 250%.

I'm not sure what happens at 20 Recluse tier, but 20 Recluse is a 6k cost army. Probably your glaives merge into a Dante, or something.

Also i'm not sure how this progression fares with units which are raider-like but not "true raiders" - ones that rely on alpha or aoe to compensate for their lack of DPS. DPS becomes quite vital in these kind of scenarios.