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ZeroWars v1.32

By petturtle
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made for zero-k
Size: 16 x 6

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Downloads: 329
Manual downloads:
http://zero-k.info/content/maps/zerowars_v1.32.sd7
https://springfiles.springrts.com/files/maps/zerowars_v1.32.sd7

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Bots B863794 4 on ZeroWars v1.32
Bots B861301 2 on ZeroWars v1.32
Bots B857200 2 on ZeroWars v1.32
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USrankPetTurtle
6 years ago
v1.32
disabled factories / static builders in mid
disabled transport units
ai gets storage
disabled unit transfer between players
added rearm pads on each side
added aa to base turrets
+6 / -1


GBrankdyth68
6 years ago
(edited 6 years ago)
These changes make me unhappy. :(
(apart from AI getting storage)

I feel you're removing a lot of interesting possibilities and making it more one dimensional.
+1 / -2
unknownrankTinySpider
6 years ago
I like these changes, it was too easy to cheese the map and just snipe enemy turret. It's a map about making a better unit combo than your opponent, not ignoring the whole premise and just ending the match with player controlled arti or slowly creeping porc. You can do that in normal games.
+2 / -0
FIrankHuixtocihuatl
6 years ago
Expecting Halberd nerfs next iteration...
+0 / -0

LVrankSenaven
6 years ago
(edited 6 years ago)
Limpet too strong on this map.
+0 / -0

LVrankSenaven
6 years ago
And one more thing can be done - reset unit attack stance to green when they become ai units. Dats would counter closed halberd spams and also makes limpet spam less op.
+0 / -0


EErankAdminAnarchid
6 years ago
I think fire-at-will limpets are actually likely more effective than holdfire limpets that most people send.
+0 / -0

LVrankSenaven
6 years ago
quote:
I think fire-at-will limpets are actually likely more effective than holdfire limpets that most people send.


Hmm but if this all limpets will rush into one reaper and die making limited gain while they spread in no attack stance and get into stright unit ball to detonate?
+0 / -0
FIrankHuixtocihuatl
6 years ago
(edited 6 years ago)
Is it possible to make unitAI-state cloneable?
+0 / -0

CNrankjiero
6 years ago
This map may change its name to AIhorizon.
+0 / -0
FIrankHuixtocihuatl
6 years ago
Current AA isn't enough
+0 / -0


GBrankdyth68
6 years ago
(edited 6 years ago)
FIrankHuixtocihuatl : Why not just ban air entirely then?
I mean, @kabudasa spent 8000 metal on those planes. For that price he could have made a couple of Cerebrus in mid and won like that.
+0 / -0
HUrankRhade
6 years ago
Perhaps USrankPetTurtle wants to make air work. I cannot blame him for that.

Check this battle:
https://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/29707
Jumpbots, mainly Jacks, were launched by Newtons into the enemy bases.
Dominatrices seemed unable capture those jacks owned by enemy players.
This may be a bug related to map, given unit transfer between players is disabled.
Is it possible to disable it only in the same team?
+0 / -0
BRrankManored
6 years ago
I played this today and I gotta say, this is fun. Its a pretty solid alternate gameplay mode.

However, there are still some loopholes to close. being able to build strategic weapons in one's own base might go against the spirit of the map. We just had a game end via our turret being nuked.

Also, its possible to lob units from base into the field using lobster/newton.

I dunno if the map maker already took this into account, but commander rezzing stuff could also break the mod, as well as djinns, specially rezzing a djinn with a com.
+0 / -0
FIrankHuixtocihuatl
6 years ago
GBrankdyth68 IMO, all instawin cheese should be cut to a minimum and made as hard as possible to access. Likhos can be both cloned and used manually while waiting to get enough to kill the Stinger. The objective becomes "avoid losing on the lane until you get four Likhos". Not good.

About air in general, GS has plenty use as a support fac on lane (although Gnat/Revenant can still be used to instakill Stinger). Planes however don't. I struggle to come up with a way to use cloned planes on lane without them being borderline useless. At the same time, planes have the most potential to skip the intended way of playing the map and straight up win. In the current version planes might as well be banned since they contribute little else than breaking the map ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
+0 / -0

CNrankjiero
6 years ago
Will lobster throw roach?
+0 / -0
BRrankManored
6 years ago
I don't think we can expect every unit type to work well on alternate game modes like this. Planes are the most micro-dependent factory by far so its only natural that they break, but they can have some uses on edge cases so I'd be cooler if they didn't have to be banned.
+0 / -0
AUrankSmokeDragon
6 years ago
(edited 6 years ago)
lost a game to a bertha smashing the units i am cloning.. the need for anti, extra aa, flea screen (dgun cloak com), and shields to protect the seed clone units

4 types of cheese .. =P
+1 / -0


EErankAdminAnarchid
6 years ago
quote:
Dominatrices seemed unable capture those jacks owned by enemy players.

I miss when domi was antiheavy.
+1 / -0
FIrankHuixtocihuatl
6 years ago
Air isn't unsalvageable, just drastic changes are in order for it to be useful as a lane fac.
+0 / -0
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