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can't deal consistently with airjacks

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48 days ago
at map edge around terraform
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48 days ago
i may not understand but gnats are the bane of jacks
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47 days ago
i havent been able to play enough multiplayer to be at the receiving end of a jack ramp launcher, but maybe making a few newtons of your own to push the jacks away from the their landing point and away from anything important (or explosive).
or just use EMP options, like smokedragon suggested, gnats super cheat compared to jacks!
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Newtons to push jacks is unreliable in many circumstances, but mainly because you cannot push jumpjet units while they are jumping. They just completely ignore all impulse applied to them and will land exactly where they are told to. That's why recon commanders can break free of a jugglenaut.

If the building is raised and the jacks have to jump to reach it, then newtons can push the jack away after it jumped. Odds are the jack will get a couple of hits in while jumping and then land on the ground, getting pushed.

If the building is not raised the jack can jump near the building and the newtons will only push the jack into the building, doing nothing. If the newtons are set to pull, then the jack will destroy the newton and then go to the building anyway. It's worse if the building is against the side of the map because the jack can jump just behind the building, slightly outside the border of the map and then no land units can reach it.

If the building is sunk, it's even worse. The jack will just jump into the pit ignoring the newtons completely, fall into the pit and destory the building.


Gnats work. Racketeers work. Enough towers that have a cylinder targeting system work (pickets and gauss) because they have infinite vertical range, so they can shoot at the jack while it's so high in the air nothing else could hit it.

That doesn't work very well, but you can also build charons and give them a pick up command on repeat over the singus. When a jack gets near, the charons will try to pick it up automatically. It can work, but it's a bit unreliable because the jack can attack the charon or just be ordered to move around the building. If the jack stays in motion, it is likely the charons will just never be able to grab it.

I find racketeers to work best. They'll just disarm the jacks while in flight and then you can dipose of them in whichever way you happen to have at the time. If you think that's costly, well, consider that you won't lose anything at all that way since the jacks won't be able to attack and also that odds are whatever you need to spend in racketeers, the newton ramp probably cost as much or more.
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47 days ago
gnatts
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47 days ago
clipping into wrecks or buildings give immunity to jacks
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47 days ago
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47 days ago
One comment on that video: the newton ramp sends the jacks flying low and they get to the other side fast enough that they don't refresh the cooldown of jump.

Usually, the jack take a much more high arcing trajectory and uses jump to land, which makes them lose altitude at a much slower rate.
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47 days ago
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47 days ago
Can't deal consistently with airjacks? Good.
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47 days ago
i personally hate gnats because it just completely shuts down the strat i spent so long perfecting (like 10 hours)
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yeah gnats are underated allot of the time they are better at killing striders then ulti
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46 days ago
djins are expensive bridges. I once tried to use djins to make a superweapon, failed miserably. 3 djins cost nearly as much as a strider. Treat them as such, SmokeDragon.
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AUrankSmokeDragon
The only thing I can think of is plates and make their rally different lamps.

Also how hard is djinn to be used for a backline assault? It can be made directly from an athena which flies, cloaks, has radar, sonar and is a radar jammer. How much easier do you want it to be?
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46 days ago
When jacks clip into the singu in the hole and my gnats cant touch them I throw my hands into the air
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46 days ago
That scenario doesn't sound like it's about the djinn, and instead more about being met with overwhelming force.
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46 days ago
if you can get a reef it can turn the jack cannon into a jack donator
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[Spoiler]
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