Free planet exploit

[V] get 1 planet from this guy

2 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob gives 113 influence on Gunton to MXrank[V]Odin
2 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob sends 1000 credits to MXrank[V]Odin
2 hours ago AUrank[V]Crutch of [V] has captured planet Ailyrazia from MXrank[NLZ]oob of NLZ.
2 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob gives 501 influence on Ailyrazia to AUrank[V]Crutch
2 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob gets $1000 for colonizing his/her first planet Ailyrazia
2 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob has claimed planet Ailyrazia for NLZ. B23006
2 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob got 113 ( ) influence at Gunton from B23006
3 hours ago MXrank[NLZ]oob joins clan NLZ

[V] got 2 planet from this guy

2 hours ago MXrank[V]Odin of [V] has captured planet Orle from MXrankPirateweee[CSS] of CSS.
2 hours ago MXrankPirateweee[CSS] gives 501 influence on Orle to MXrank[V]Odin
2 hours ago MXrankPirateweee[CSS] has claimed planet Orle for CSS. B23006
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee joins clan CSS
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee leaves clan Pirate
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee gives 201 influence on Tamrorn to MXrank[V]Odin
3 hours ago MXrank[V]Odin of [V] has captured planet Eladehir from MXrank[Pirate]weeee of Pirate.
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee gives 501 influence on Eladehir to MXrank[V]Odin
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee sends 1000 credits to MXrank[V]Odin
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee gets $1000 for colonizing his/her first planet Eladehir
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee has claimed planet Eladehir for Pirate. B23004
3 hours ago MXrank[Pirate]weeee got 201 ( ) influence at Tamrorn from B23004
4 hours ago MXrankblabla[T] joins clan Pirate

Both happened 2 hours ago

Maybe it is possible to check from which IP 's this oob and weeee connected? Because this certainly looks like a bit of foul play.

hmmm...Of course, it's suspicious that clanmember of NLZ or Pirates sends his IP/credits to another player in enemy clan, but shouldnt he be penalized by means of that clan ? (By kicking him out, because he broke clan rules, if any?)

Keep in mind that this player could transfer only his OWN gained IP/credits, which he won by himself, right? If thats an inside trader (traitor) from V, he was exposed and those clans should deal with him themselves. I dont see any reason to punish him by admins.

Or he could just give that IP and credits to Odin because they agreed on something, traded etc. Maybe he decided to join V? Dunno, but thats hardly a cheating I think, just weird.

I think it is cheating... how can it be reasoned with to say its ok to do this? have clan limits been lifted? valhalla have 12 members

Its not transfering IPs, its creating an account, and a smurf account and then using the gifting rule to cheat your way to a free planet and free credits. Something that a couple NIA members got banned for earlier this season to note.

However I think the simpilist solution to this exploit is to have IP transfer between clan members only.

Ah, I see. Multiaccounting is forbidden?
I would understand that dualboxing should be, but (if you imply that Odin set smurf accounts...) what is the reason to do so?
Why would someone get more accounts, with no unlocks and commander setups, just to play at the same time (and regularly win!) and then transfer those points to his own account, when he could do the same easier way on his OWN account? I dont get it :/

Hm okay, I didnt know that every clan gets free planet awarded at the beginning of PW. I thought they won them by regular way (I checked their replays if its fake or real match, and was real) but anyways...

That means this starting planet is given to one random clanmember ?
If we want to prevent inside traders from trading away the starting planets, they should be given exclusively to clan LEADERS, not any clanmember by random.
It's bad luck if that member happens to be somehow untrustworthy...

Now the question is:
If we find out that those players are unique and they just willingly transferred their planets to Odin because they are all friends... Should it really be punished?
Because when they get the starting planet under their control, it is fully in their disposition, right?

I think its the fault of the clanleader, and he should punish (kick) such players (or smurf accounts if so) and be more careful about recruiting.

PS: Trading limits between clanmembers only would kill whole trading and alliance system.

Thanks, now I understand :) Well, I don't know any of those players, except our CL Odin, so I cant tell which is fake or not. Admins will decide by ID if its unique. Though I dont think its something wrong or bad, its just a dirty trick at most...Audiatur et altera pars.

To limiting trade: We used it at least once, while in old clan before joining V though. But I think it will not do any good overall, disabling IP. What about future alliances and tactical trading between them?

(Im off for 3 days, see ya)

Just to make sure stuff is clear. I am not agiant the buying and selling of IP on planets. That takes Money and IP already. I just think that a person shouldn't be able to give away their IP to non-clan members.

Also, I would call this bad when a clan can exploit their way into a 4 planet lead, I call that preety bad.

There is. It's 10 members of rank 2 or higher play time.