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9 years ago
Give gunships ability to spam companion drone and battle drone ?
They need some scout and attack units of some kind. Blatswings kind of suck. make blastwings like puppies or something ?
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9 years ago
Gnat/Bslastwing = useless, cheese does not count.

Black Dawn = could be good but needs small buff to have to reason to make it over rapier balls
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Skasi
Useless? Blastwing is an awesome scout! Rush ~4 on hilly maps, scout the enemy and then go for windgenfarms. Just make sure to set them on hold fire, otherwise they'll suicide on raiders and similar.





This is what nightmares are made of!
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9 years ago
they are not effective Skasi...We need something fast moving low dmg and with wings! companion drones or battle drones. Thats what i suggest. If we make blastwings like puppies i suggest metal cost increase to 90
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Skasi
9 years ago
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We need something fast moving low dmg and with wings!

fast moving ✓
low dmg ✓
wings ✓
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And its not a suicidal bomb ! Acts like a raider !
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Skasi
Pff, are you implying raiders were not designed to be suicidal? Pah!

Anyway uh use Banshee then. It even says "Raider Gunship"!
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9 years ago
Gunship fac has like 5 units with raider in their name.
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Skasi
9 years ago
USrankFealthas flip the 5, make it 2. There's only "Banshee - Raider Gunship" and "Black Dawn - Heavy Raider/Assault Gunship".

ROrankForever, scout with Black dawn or Krow! You only play 10v10 icy run anyway. \o/
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Hilariously blastwing shotgun works sort of. Enemy have a lot of aa? Make some newtons (5-6 will work), fire a bunch of blastwings. Lol AA can't touch that. And once you're off-map with blastwings, you can scout with one and the enemy will be like O.o where'd that blastwing come from?! Find enemy singu. Wait for it to finish then LOL BLASTWINGS. GG.

I don't think that counts as cheese anyways. Makes me want to play teamgames again and have lots of fun.

On the plus side 30+ blastwings are hilarious when they explode. Makes a HUGE crater. Delicious shrapnel of lolpwned.
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9 years ago
blast-wings chain.. i think that’s one of the issues.. its easy to deal with 1 blast-wing.. and that’s almost always all you ever need deal with.. because if you kill 1 then it kills all its followers.. so people send them in a trickle.. and that is a waste of metal for how ineffective it is vs most aa.. if they stacked better they would be ok imho.. because trying to keep them apart from each-other and still converge on a target is super difficult
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9 years ago
add a cloaker to your blastwing pack. works fine with puppies too. congrats, you are now fabulous.
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9 years ago
iv never seen a ground cloaker escort blast-wing pack.. =/ is that even a good idea idk... i wonder is there a way to get a cloaker airborn
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9 years ago
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ground cloaker escort blast-wing pack
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is that even a good idea


depends. you need to accelerate the blastwings so when they fly out of the cloaking field have their correct vector and best matching speed. due to their fluffy unpredictable explosion, this might only be a good idea vs balls fo shields or similar clumsy units. in any case it is a zomgWtfIAmDoomed situation and the lulz is guaranteed. thats how fun is generated.

the same for puppies is a much more relieably nobrainer.

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i wonder is there a way to get a cloaker airborn


flying cloaker with enabled cloaking field: no. (but i will be happy if you proove me wrong)
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9 years ago
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i wonder is there a way to get a cloaker airborn

Newton.
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reading EErankAdminAnarchid 's response, you should rephrase your question to include silly details like usefulness/controllability.


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iv never seen a ground cloaker escort XXX

in general, the cloaker is a very powerful addition to any army except shielded units. the classic is with roaches. i regulary do it with catapults or penetrators, dantes, sometimes sumo to get in stomp range, jack pack for ZOMGWTF 25k hp suddenly etc. in general, great to remove the lack of speed to a unit, or to hide units with high alpha and long reload.

the posibilities are endless and the unit is notoriously underused.

protips:
--cloaked units dont pay energy upkeep when under eraser field. (only the eraser does)
--cloaked units have a different (in general decreased) decloak range when under eraser field (e.g. skuttle)
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9 years ago
just to clarify.. do you mean that a cloaked sniper that pays energy for cloak does not when cloaked by eraser? or that units cloaked by field cloak do not stack additional cost? =) btw this is useful advice thanks
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9 years ago
yes. a sniper (or any other unit with personal cloaking device) does not pay energy upkeep for its own cloaking ability (it behaves like its cloaking ability is disabled), when it is cloaked by the cloaking field of an eraser.

the eraser pays its own upkeep, independent of other units being cloaked by itself or not.

i dunno what happens if you cloak a eraser with a erasor and vice versa, or a eraser with its stationary surrogate.
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You also forget escorting a ghetto licho DErankAdminmojjj with a cloaker. Many lulz I have gotten from that when I still played.

How to Ghetto Licho troll:

1.) Make 2 Valkyries, a skuttle and an eraser.

2.) Scout enemy singu farm. Take note of the location.

3.) Load the eraser and skuttle.

4.) Fly the eraser somewhere safe outside of the enemy strong hold.

5.) have the other valkyrie with the skuttle guard the eraser.

6.) Escort it near enemy singus. Best time to go is when the edge of the cloak shield touches the enemy singu barely.

7.) Watch your enemies' faces become as they see your skuttle gently fall down onto the singu.

8.) For best results, hope the skuttle doesn't die from fall damage. This makes it even more rich as you jump toward the singu.

9.) Control. D. Do it for the lulz.

10.) Fireworks, rage and lulz ensue.
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i dunno what happens if you cloak a eraser with a erasor and vice versa, or a eraser with its stationary surrogate.

Area cloak does not stack so nothing interesting happens. If a unit is affected by area cloak, it does not pay personal cloak upkeep but will still pay the area cloak generation upkeep. Eraser has no personal cloak (only area cloak). Sneaky Pete does despite being a building.
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