Opinions on bar rts?

What are your opinions on bar rts.

In many ways it is superior to ZK, notably graphics & website wise.

It is also quite fun if you get into it

Remake of BA while not taking any of the lessons ZK has learned?

taht being said being a BA remake, there are some things that are better then ZK, cause ZK does have a few serious flaws in the late game.

I remember trying it like a year ago or so. Even though the graphics is better and more consistent across factories, zk is far superior.
ZK's flat tech tree is a huge advantage - there, you have tech 1, tech 2 and tech 3 units, to build a tech 3 unit you need a tech 1 constructor to build a tech 2 factory, from which you need a tech 2 constructor to build a tech 3 factory, and then you can build the unit - something like that. Wtf.
I feel like zk is more fast paced, which is good. Zk has more units and more variability. All BAR units feel the same. In zk, you have this sumo which has gravity beams, you have firewalker that shoots fire, you have shockley and widows to stun units... In BAR, everything just shoots some kind of laser and feels too similar. Zk also supports much more players, I enjoy those 16v16 lobpots - BAR is max like 4v4 I think. And zk community is bigger.

I don't like it for a few reasons that I won't go into detail on:

* No communism
* Exponential eco
* No unit AI
* Cheap rez

Much better graphics though.

Agreed with dyth68. ZK eco model is great, it enforces area expansion. If you want a game that enforces porcing, Shaman's mod Future Wars for ZK is perfect, but exponential eco should not be part of the vanilla game.

I wish we could have the best of BAR and ZK. That would be a powerhouse.

Tier 3 units are the best units right.

Lol, wut, BAR has no sharing. Do they have a lobpot?

half the overdrive that your structures produce goes directly to you, the rest is split between teams. thats the settings ZK started with when it split from the main spring community.

But games do scale up beyond 'a few units dueling it out'. It's only not true if you pick a lobpot of too many players on a too small map.

I also find it very hard to believe 50% communism was in any way better. Maybe you're romanticizing the past a bit.

It would be an absolute drag to share less; you would have people only interested in investing in eco and then saying 'I'm done eco, let's attack' and then they build their hundreds of units. It sounds like hell.

Or do you also profit from expanding. My mexes - my metal. COMMUNISM BAD then.

BAR is BUSTLING AND REDOLENT. Last and current opinion.