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Title: [A] Teams All Welcome
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K v1.11.11.6
Engine version: 105.1.1-1821-gaca6f20
Battle ID: 1768278
Started: 5 months ago
Duration: 30 minutes
Players: 16
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Chance of victory: 39.6%

DErankkatastrophe
CZrankSilent_AI
USrankVexCollectiv
ATrankRomux
FRrankruru
RUrankFantasyZero
ROrankRedzz
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5 months ago
at about 13 a lobster ball dies to nothing by souths base
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watched the replay, still no idea. It looked like they were on self-destruct, but it does not seem so...

correction:
They were on self-d.
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5 months ago
weird, must've been a misclick
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4 months ago
You throw them up with a lobster by pressing a D key, perhaps you pressed it once before you threw them and also held ctrl
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I bound self destruct to CTRL+L. I fat fingered CTRL+D in an attempt to use CTRL+F to select forces a few times... or at lest that's what I think I did after watching my forces explode without realizing how that happened.
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Self-D probably has no legitimate use case that isn't covered by the instant self-d command that requires it to be bound. All the rest of the use cases are extremely niche compared to the threat of accidentally firing off the command. Maybe it should be changed from ctrl+D to alt+D or unbound?
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4 months ago
There's an instant self d key?
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Yes the D key for terraform, roach, imp, etc.
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4 months ago
Oh destroying your stuff to leave less reclaim is a good tactic I think.
It could be more noticable tho. I think I accidentally self-destructed my stuff once in 7 years, at least for me its not that big of a deal. But as said, maybe it should have a more noticable feedback when you activate it.
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4 months ago
Supcom uses Ctrl+K iirc. Much harder to fat finger.
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4 months ago
It's not just that self destruct is CTRL+D... it's that D is used a lot for essentially all the manually activated skills.

CTRL is a modifier for a lot of commands.

D is right next to F, which is used to force fire by a lot of units.

Heck, if I select a factory and CTRL+D, do I want to build 20xAA units or do I want to destroy the factory?
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4 months ago
We require AI determine the expected outcome.
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4 months ago
quote:
if I select a factory and CTRL+D, do I want to build 20xAA units or do I want to destroy the factory?

Obviously self-d the fac because noone builds 20 mobile aa-units instead of statics.
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4 months ago
quote:
Oh destroying your stuff to leave less reclaim is a good tactic I think.


Falls under "incredibly niche" as most of the time your units will be dead before the 5s runs out or you'll waste value killing things that are in a winning fight. This requires a situation in which 3 things are true: you know that you can't win the fight, you cannot disengage and you have ample time to fire the self d command and allow it to finish.
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4 months ago
not units, buildings
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4 months ago
quote:
most of the time your units will be dead before the 5s
Might be a good strategy for Odin after it fired. It's quite tanky and has no use after it fired IF you assume it will not make it back.
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