Remove Small Supreme Battlefield from the rotation

So few people like playing ships that it's just not worth it to have it in the rotation for Teams All Welcome. Many people will play it when they vote against it instead of spectate, but then they play halfheartedly...and etc.

Besides nobody will miss it and if they do they can start a vote for the specific map....

Who is with me!!!

Agreed. Keep it for small teams, but not big teams.

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I tend to think tangerine and SSB make for some of the more interesting matches. Most games are decided in the first 5 minutes by who controls the center super mex(es), and here you have games that are often hang in the balance.

I agree with the Shaman about how the split sea makes it unfortunate to be playing and be stuck on one flank. Scorpio Battleground is probably better in this regard.

I would like to see more variety in maps in general. I really don't know how I would feel about removing tangerine and ssb. I definitely enjoy tangerine much more than ssb because the water seems less important on tangerine. One of the strangest and most amusing games I ever played was on ssb, so it isn't like every game on the map is terrible.

the map is ok for big teams imo, maybe the problem is there is 3-4 versions of this map in the rotation: 2seas, seas-joined, the re-textured one and dry (i actually prefer dry)

its a classic map, dont kill it completely

quote: For a map as unpopular as Small Supreme Battlefield (or Zed or a few others) allegedly are they do get voted for an awful lot, though. Maybe because their minimaps are so identifiable.

There often are worse alternatives that don't get voted for, and thus don't cause anguish by showing up too often.

IMO, anyone wanting to downregulate SSB/Zed frequency should report to #zkmap, and attempt to replace the wallflower maps.

If there are more than one person in this, you could collaborate and rush something together.

>It requires you to either be up in attrition enough to afford the 1450m for amph fac switch + djinn or the 875 for the plate + djinn

In full lobsterpots players often command armies of 10-20k value, and reclaim awards amount to 20-30k. Spending 2k metal on an ability to switch flanks at will is a plain no-brainer, it's just there's not often comes up an urgent need to switch flank.
Simply speaking, when there are multiple Palas walking around, if you have no spare 2k metal to spend on an important asset, you have more serious problems than inability to switch flank.

>(assuming you had an ally who decided to go amphs)

Again, if you are playing lobsterpot on a Supreme Small Battlefield, and nobody in your team picked Amph, there are more problems with your team than just inability to switch flanks.

>In practice, travel time is often prohibitive and you'll be struggling to get a beach head by the time you're actually able to get a djinn in place and start sending assets. Plus now all your assets you've sent are now trapped on the other flank unless you pay another 750m.

Frankly, the problems you are describing look a bit exagerrated to me. But fair enough, don't use Djinn if you can't make it work. I certainly can, and, as evident from mojjj post, I am not alone.

Edit: concerning time travel, there is Hercules at your service if already comparatively fast Djinn does not cut it by itself. I don't see any problem with a time of travel, taking into account general combat speeds.

Indeed, Folsom might be one of the best maps I've ever played. Has everything and stays balanced.

Djinn for strategic lane switching is totally a thing, a player named GoGoDancer used to do that pretty well.

But it's also kind of a specialization. In case of GoGoDancer it worked with the old drone-type funnelweb as an attrition dealer and mass convict for reclaim. I think that's probably obsolete.