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yesterday we had 3 games in a row that both teams rushed a paladin =D

its very hard to stop and looks like a strong meta

so ill start a list of the best known counters and hope it helps reign back the onslaught
we will rule out brute force assuming its protected.

well known:

ultimatum 1-2 (low-high skill depending on paladin support)(teamwork)
widow x ?4? (medium-high skill depending on paladin support)
shockey (high skill)(teamwork)
gnat (atleast 10+)(critical mass/time)(aa kills gnats too fast)
dirtbags (block and slow its advance)

things that rarely work:

cloaked lance (critical mass/time)
sniper (critical mass/time)
napping with trans (high skill)
merlin (critical mass/time)(teamwork)
lucifer (costly)

community additions:

scout build site and attack with trans ulti/silo (teamwork)
Lobstered d-gun (commander/ulti ~ high skill)(teamwork)
multi lobster throw (extreme skill)
cloaked placeholder (slow advance)
walls (slow advance)
jacks (critical mass)
racketeers (disarm)
shields (risk)
limpet (clear flea screen)
bum rush paladin (high risk/teamwork)
ravens (enemy aa dependant) warning emp missiles from pal are op!

If you gonna try 3 scorps with transports, you can make your own Paladin as well. ;)

quote: anyone tried disarm?

I did, several times, and racketeers work pretty well in a sense that the paladin is usually too scared to go forward when under disarming fire. They are also much cheaper, so you can build a lot of them before paladin is finished and be ready when it comes. However, coordinated artillery makes short work of racketeers, and they deal no damage so other units are needed to actually destroy the pala. Still, I think it's one of the best strategies against early paladin (it can move under disarm, but at least it can't do damage so racketeers can buy you time to make something that can destroy it).

i add shields.. but i worry does the paladin d-gun not obliterate shields? just need to be sure that shields work as a counter to the annihilation beam atleast

from memory the emp missiles stun shields fast

i suppose you mean shields to allow another unit to kill the paladin? so i add it but i also add risk in description as i have seen many shields destroyed by paladins if i remember correctly.

How about taking advantage of the fact that all that metal is pumped into one unit?
The main problem is that people freak out too easy.

So imagine this. Yomi the paladin by building 2 ultimatums(5K metal) and 2 herculese(1.5K metal) and instantly drop them on the mass of comanders/paladin in construction.

Another alternative is to remove Zed from lobpot for a couple months :)

you are right TechAUmNu almost any unit in mass can kill a paladin.. paladin does not have the best dps vs cost. but we are assuming its surrounded by riots and requires a 'strike attack'. and we are ruling out sheer overwhelming. thats not to say it wont work so i will add it to the list but its often hard to get the 'kill' before the paladin retreats =)

https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1460223

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I don't get why katastrophe gave that example since I lost the Paladin there to hordes of Ravens.