Retrospective user block with drawn map comments

I notice if you block someone, what they wrote/drew on the map, is still there.

It only appears to block future comments/draws from them.

It would be handy if it removed previous comments/draws from folk on your block list.


Otherwise I think my best strategy for having an enjoyable game without insults is to block said person, then resign so I don't have to keep reading their insults when I'm playing.

Eventually I'll run out of insulting players to block..


Or maybe I should block everyone in advance. :-)

It cannot because that information is not stored in memory and storing it in memory could eventually consume a ton of memory. You'd have to store the coordinates of the ping and who wrote it. This means you'd have a table entry on every ping, which hashing tables is already pretty slow. You'd be looking at around 20-100kb or so of memory per label which adds up fast (consider all the no label pings people like to spam). Erasing labels would also mean knowing when a point is erased (which has no callin currently) and that would mean shifting the table, which would be rather slow for large table sizes. In addition, this would open up a new avenue of griefing games via deliberately spamming tons of labels over a long period of time.

TL;DR: the best we could do is just hit "Erase all labels" when doing /ignore.

In order to use Spring.MarkerErasePosition, we need to know the position we are removing. This means you're going to have to store positions. You want to remove all the points in which someone has added, you're going to have to store who made a point where. There's a callin:

widget:MapDrawCmd(playerID, cmdType, px, py, pz, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4)

NOTE: cmdType here can be erased which allows us to remove points from the table. See problems below.

You're going to be storing information from this callin in the form of a table. Essentially a structure like this:

{
[playerID] = {
[1] = {x, z},
[2] = {x, z}
etc}
}

or

{
[playerID] = {
[x value here] = {
[y value] = true
}
}
}

PROBLEM: other people can erase points that aren't there own!
PROBLEM: middle mouse pings are super easy to spam! This means we're facing potentially hundreds to thousands of points total. This is going to be a beefy table and we're limited by memory to 1,5gb between lua rules and lua ui.
PROBLEM: pairs is fairly slow compared to indexed tables (about 4x slower)
PROBLEM: if ignoring a user causes the game to lag while we process their pings, they're de-incentivized to use the feature and it might as well not exist.
PROBLEM: erasing a point erases all points within a radius.

TL;DR: I described the logistics and pitfalls of implementing this as "too big" for too little qol and said it would be easier to just call the "Erase all points" action when ignoring a player which achieves the same result.

Shaman, what you're saying makes more sense.

I do think your sizing of memory and performance impact is way off. A table with simple coordinates is not that big. Spam should be filtered out regardless.

However, you rightly say that the erase-command isn't ideal, as that is a propagated command for a player. The elements should be removed via a purely local erase-command - removing it from the elements. In the engine the lines and points are stored per player, so the core code should include a new method (or add more noise to an existing method) to drop all lines and points of the ignored player.

Above all, it's an absolute non-feature. Just click the clean-screen Eridug. All the thingies are gone.

Shaman it's definitely byte. no way a table can eat 20kb with just a few elements. and the perf cost is miniscule compared to, say, an extra couple of units. no local delete is a pain tho.

Eridug the acceptable number of storages is 1, and that's only if you lose your comm. zk has a streaming economy which means storages are useless noob traps

Is there a little widget that tracks the metal/energy situation for the whole team ("ally team")?

Sometimes I have the opportunity to unleash 10-15 builders on a wreckage field, at those times I wonder if its being spent.

Thanks, I've apparently not examined that panel closely enough.

When your local panel shows surplus metal being wasted, is it really being wasted ?

That's when storage, or building useful stuff ( Say, more electricity generation. ) to make use of it, would be handy, instead of it being wasted.

You can activate "chili deluxe player list", this will show you the storage of all your teammates.

On a sidenote, why do you insist of playing team-games if you don`t want to interact with your team? This is nothing against you as a person, but there is a reason your win-statistic is at place 987 of 1000 players... Other people are looking for an enjoyable game too you know? And bluntly said the way you behave makes the game quite unenjoyable for almost all other players in your team.

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why do you insist of playing team-games if you don`t want to interact with your team?
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I'm quite happy, and able to interact with team mates who are pleasant, or have solutions I agree with.

Just because someone demands X, doesn't mean you give them X, if X is a bad idea !

What if 2 people ask for X, who gets it !

It isn't uncommon for me to play a game, where no one says anything to anyone, and we just know by watching each others actions, what is needed when/where and act accordingly.

Games can go swimmingly like that.

Other times, there are a few bossy and rude folk who swear at you, call you names, repeatedly write stuff over your base/etc so you can't see what you doing easily and act like spoilt kids that their orders must be right and obeyed at all costs.

I'm quite happy to follow orders, if I think either the person knows what they are doing, or might do. ( You find out after a while if someone you are following orders from is worth doing that for again ! )