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Is Arena mode counting for casual?

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FRrankmalric
2 days ago
(edited 2 days ago)
After playing 2 Arena mod games, my elo suddenly tanked (but played more games, so not 100% sure). Should/do the games count for casual? It says "Rating: Casual" but not sure if it is correct. The games in question:

https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2218465
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2218485
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unknownrankShaman
2 days ago
Game was not noelo=1, therefore it counted.

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USrankStuart98
2 days ago
(edited 2 days ago)
Any modded game (Arena, Tech-K, Zero Wars, Future Wars, etc) should probably be forced to use noelo, games that aren't normal ZK shouldn't count for casual rating. In fact, this should also be the case for any game that has 3 or more teams.
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FRrankmalric
2 days ago
So people complain about smurfs, but you can lower the ELO by playing mods that you (might) have no clue about? This sounds very confusing.

Is the official position that mods should be included by default in the Casual ladder?
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unknownrankShaman
29 hours ago
FW already opts out of elo at the mod level. It always treats itself as noelo due to the code.
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AUrankAdminAquanim
27 hours ago
(edited 27 hours ago)
I don't believe mods are generally supposed to count for any rating, but the room system does misbehave.

It can probably be fixed retroactively, with some effort.
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FRrankmalric
2 hours ago
Don't think it's worth the effort to fix.

So basically nobody implemented the fact that rating should be applied only to ZK proper so we have to rely on people's attention. This has an (unknown) effect on the ratings from all the people that loose in funny mods than come to play in TAW. Bit annoying and sad, but I get is hard to implement things...

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