Ok so mr. Fred banned me for 3 days because of a chicken game( that we were winning without a problem and other players to trolled in the end trying to kill eco before the queen.Why i am the target of this?) PENALTY: Bullying newer players into doing as he wishes, verbal nastiness, childish map squigling and Teamkilling an allied commander with skuttle http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/21742316 hours ago Issued by: GBrankAdmin[GBC]Fred Lobby blocked Expires on: 12/16/2013 3:57:39 PM
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If i start to write down every ban chance for every player that i meet at least 30% of them will get ban (team that i play in games), because there are tons of reasons( game trolling, bad language and etc) Again why I am the target of this and why the ban is so harsh cause it didnt influence the game with nothing...it was chicken games.
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1: learn to count, the ban duration was 3 days, considered lenient by multiple admins prior to implementation. If you'd prefer I could increase it to originally proposed duration? 2: Ban severity will be decided on a number of factors including your activity around the time of the ban as well as the actual instigator, the reports(i.e. anything admins have seen you do but have gone unpunished) 3: "why am I the target of this" for the exact activities listed in the reason, did you threaten newer players? Yes. Did you skuttle a team members com? Yes. therefore, ban extra added bonus round, Have you been punished for this exact activity before? Why yes you have, more then once. +4Ban severity Hopefully that can shed some light on what and why.
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"Did you skuttle a team members com? Yes. therefore, ban extra added bonus round" It was chicken game.......and we were winning. Skutteling that didnt influence the game ending. Show me those reports   [GBC]Fred, cause i am used from the GBC clan that you guys dont like MM so much and if you find reasons you fast target me with your bans.
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quote: i am used from the GBC clan that you guys dont like MM so much |
quote: I demand that none of the GBC player will do this from now on |
quote: this is the second time when some GBc player expresses the hate like this |
You really think that is what getting banned is about? Team killing and verbal abuse is in violation of the CoC, being in a clan that the admin in question does not like is not. Accusing Fred of admin abuse just because he is in GBC is ludicrous. This is going to be another of the almost weekly "shows" on the zk forum.
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quote: I demand that none of the GBC player will do this from now on even if the ban will be 2X bigger. |
You demand.If you act like a snot-nosed child ingame, you'll get banned by admins. Selecting which admin bans you is not part of the deal - when you get arrested by a black skinned policeman, you can't demand that he uncuff you, go back to the station and get a white policeman to arrest you. GBC encompasses two admins who are active players that play in the same timezone as you so yes, if you consistently break community rules I would not be surprised if Fred or Anarchid have banned you before.
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So...the curent ban reason , for trolling in CHICKEN GAMES WITh skuttle EVEN IF THE GAME WAS A WIN, is not agreeable from my point of view. I asked Fred for the other reports from players? WHere are they? Show me replays where i swear people ( i dont remember doing that just calling peopel STOPPPPPPPPPP DONNTTT with labels and nothing else). Tell me Ivory : "act like a bullying snot-nosed child ingame" How did i bully in other games beside that chicken game that is not reliable. I still dont find true reasons for the ban and again...why is it that only GBC is responding to this thread and no other players. Yes Ivory i DEMAND, because i respect all zero k players here and at least this is what i want from admin community, to be judged corectly because: 1. When i label spam like madness ( STOPPPPPPPP, DONTTTTTTT) usually is for players that make usless units and suicide them thus they can get ban if i report them 2.If i dont try to make him stop game can be lost and in one situation i have a replay where i could save my team from 2 nuke attacks if a newbie listened to me, BUT HE DIDNT. 3. When i label spam is usually when we rush things in teamgames when more then 90% of times is easy win for that game and i have replays for that when we all Krow rush or other big units( valk+skuttle) 4. When i troll in chicken games because GAME IS A WIN and its not important to self d things or other things cause all PLAYERS DO IT. AGAIN why is the reason for the ban?
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quote: I still dont find true reasons for the ban and again...why is it that only GBC is responding to this thread and no other players. |
I dont know, wait 24 hours so every timezone has a chance to observe and respond then repeat your query.
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Probably cause you accused us of untoward nasty opinions towards yourselves, I'm sorry, you aren't so special you deserve such a fixation. As to why I stopped replying, I went for a shower, I have things to do today. Whether its a chicken game, or whether its a normal game, win or lose the rules apply to reply in your own style WINNING DOES NOT. PARDON YOU FROM BREAKING THE RULES. see that? Simple. as for "other reported incidences, http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/174757 griefing, terraforming other players factories and being rude to newer players, http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/217284 comnapping, more being nasty
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First replay Fred was : Title: COOP vs AI (chickens or CAI): All welcome! Host: CZrankIodine1 Game version: Zero-K v1.1.3.6 Engine version: 91.0 Started: 6 months ago Duration: 14 minutes Players: 10 Bots: True Mission: False 6 MONTHS AGO SECOND ONE    Alcur ALREADY PUNISHED ME. Again you had no reason for the ban   [GBC]Fred stop trying to bring up the winnable losable aspect. Lots of players self d all things in the last moments of chicken games...If we start to report that like 50% of players will get ban. But who cares, there is always som1 like me who gets to be the target with replays older then 6 months ago and a replay that was already punished. You know what...if it was for me il would ban you   [GBC]Fred for admin abuse cause you didnt do your homework.
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You've been reported twice in the last 3 days for trolling in chicken games. You've already been punished for the last time. That doesn't make doing it again better   Forever. If everyone thinks your behavior is not serious and in good fun, they don't report you, and admins don't do anything. If they are frustrated and their experience is ruined by your behavior, they report you, and admins do something. We are acting on you ruining the experience of other players, and as a repeat offender, you do not get lenience.
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That is the repeat offense. Being punished for something doesn't wipe it from your record, it makes doing it again into a pattern of negative behavior.
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lol @ gbconspiracy Damn, it's way worse than I thought:  quote: Yes Ivory i DEMAND, because i respect all zero k players here and at least this is what i want from admin community |
I don't think you understand what respect means. quote: 1. When i label spam like madness ( STOPPPPPPPP, DONTTTTTTT) usually is for players that make usless units and suicide them thus they can get ban if i report them |
Playing badly is not an offense unless done deliberately, in which case it may be depending on the manner and motive. Since I doubt you're complaining about sfireman or drone here, maybe you should think more before you ask for such things. quote: 2.If i dont try to make him stop game can be lost and in one situation i have a replay where i could save my team from 2 nuke attacks if a newbie listened to me, BUT HE DIDNT. |
Not a justification for abusing newbies. Your victim blaming is embarrassing, stop it. quote: 3. When i label spam is usually when we rush things in teamgames when more then 90% of times is easy win for that game and i have replays for that when we all Krow rush or other big units( valk+skuttle) |
See above. quote: 4. When i troll in chicken games because GAME IS A WIN and its not important to self d things or other things cause all PLAYERS DO IT. |
What is this "all players?" If you have a specific case you think should be punished, use the report function and we'll look at it. Otherwise you're just complaining about being caught. quote: SECOND ONE    Alcur ALREADY PUNISHED ME. |
Before anyone gets confused by what I'd call a blatant attempt to spread confusion if I thought better of the offender's intelligence: The battle cited in the relevant ban (and the offense listed, for that matter) is a different one (see image above). quote: stop trying to bring up the winnable losable | You are the one invoking it, dude. Can you not keep track of your own arguments?
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quote: Can forever not keep track of his own arguments? |
precedent would suggest not.
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Great...3 day ban because i skuttled singu moho and a commander in chicken games... even if we won battle.I dont think other penalties should be added to the curent ban because i was already punished by them. I still consider this unfair.
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Is there any precedent of you considering something that didn't benefit you to be fair?
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You trolled other players in 2 chickens games enough for them to get angry enough to report you. After you were punished for the first game, you did it AGAIN. What do you expect?
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Great...3 day ban for me then...while other trollers that suicide commanders every game with factory unploped and other stuf dont get nothing cause they are nabs or newbies...(newbies with 40-60 levels) or rush economy in a 1 vs 1 map(moho rush) even if he could make the game win. You guys just find a target and ban him for 100-200% more time while other players dont get nothing...And i dont want to point out players cause i am not that type of person. Its just the general ban for trolls that is missplaced and overplaced. Imo the 3 day ban is to much...
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