Ancient history lie

Many people in the forums think of me that i write troll thread just to amuse myself or to annoy others. A long time ago i told something regarding the fact that Romania(ancient times called Dacia) was not descended from the Roman Empire. Proof was made via genetic tracing, and its clear that we are not descended from Romans, and that we spoke latin long before Romans were in Italy.

I think this will be the foundation that for the future will prove that Romans are our descendands.

"Miceal Ledwith , a confidant of Pope John Paul II and the man who had access to all secret documents from the Vatican library , recently made a statement that shocked the academic world and beyond. He said the Latin cult comes from ancient Romanian language , not vice versa, as was believed until now!

" Even though we know that Latin is the official language of the Catholic Church and the Roman language and Romanian language is a Latin language , less people know that the Romanian or the precursor to the place where it comes from Latin shoot and not reverse " . In other words, Romanian language is a Latin language , but rather Latin language is Romanian .

Romania , Lady Garden

According libertatea.ro theory that the Romans conquered part of Dacia and Dacians , including those from the territories conquered by Rome , have abandoned their ancestral language and began to speak Latin is false . According to Ledwith 's statement Dacians did not need translators : already spoke the language of his birth even Latin. From this perspective , Romanians appear as one people with the Dacians , direct and legitimate their followers . Moreover, it appears that the Romans were Thracian . Miceal Ledwith(he is Irish) is mentioned that a person who has no personal feelings for the country Romania . Also recall that Pope John Paul II said during his visit to our country in 1999 , that Romania is "Garden of the Virgin" . In this context , the question arises : what the Vatican know about us , and we have no idea ?

Genetically , we hdidnt change for 5000 years, we are all Dacianans

Paleogenetic study conducted between 2003-2006 showed that genetically we Romanias are Dacians and latinization theory of the Roman Empire is false.

The study, conducted by Dr. Georgeta card specialist in genetics , with the support of the University of Hamburg, Germany, on the bone tissue harvested from 20 archaeological sites in Romania , from a total of 50 individuals belonging to populations who lived here 5000 years ago . Genetic data obtained were compared with those of Romanians today . The conclusion was that between Romania and the current population who lived in that country with 5000 years ago there is a clear genetic relatedness and basic background proves the continuity and close contact with the ancient population , Dacians north of Danube branch of the great Thracians ."

Its proven genetic...Omg

i didnt searched for sources. Il post one Soon.

Of course i downvote you, because you are ignorant. I provided proof for the people who asked that a long time ago in other thread. So if you are not one of those persons interested you can leave. Stop spamming in threads that you dont have business.

quote: Miceal Ledwith , a confidant of Pope John Paul II and the man who had access to all secret documents from the Vatican library , recently made a statement that shocked the academic world and beyond. He said the Latin cult comes from ancient Romanian language , not vice versa, as was believed until now!

But we only have the word of one person in the Vatican to support this?

Bu.. Sponge you did read that :O?

1) this has nationalist pride smells... or rather, genetic bragging rights smells
2) how ironic, how Forever uses science selectively
3) Why can't I find something about Dr. Georgetta?
4) actually, scratch number 2... this is not using science, this is an Appeal to Authority (he is a geneticist, dare doubting his words?)

cite your sources... and at least provide the full name of Dr. Georgetta. I can't find any geneticist by that name.

Lastly, Forever, I'm sure most people here do not think you are a troll... most people here think you are a believer who lacks critical thinking. Don't celebrate, it is much worse than being a troll IMO.

All the things that i posted are translated from romanian to english. Trying to find english sources of the info. Found some but doesnt say all the things. Il look more into it this night.

ITs not about nationalism [V]sheep, its about lies...How do you feel if a secret is kept for 2000 years against your country just because roman empire pillaged and raped it to survie? In a documentary it is said that Roman Empire decided to conquer Dacia in that time because they were lacking founds. Because of the gold and silver found there Roman Empire was able to sustain itself for more time.

Romans had a way to call other nations just to have a reason to invade and enslave them: "They are barbarians". And because of that many nations in ancient times suffered from that. Today instead of barbarians people call the others :communists or fascists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C4%83rt%C4%83ria_tablets

More info regarding what i said, that relats to it. And its clear evidence.

Thanks for the references.

I'll be more explicit about how I think:
- its all in romanian => this has not been peer reviewed outside of romania (maybe not even peer reviewed at all?) => it is a fact that humans have biases... and I tend to be more careful when people are connected to the research they are doing. Romania about Romanians? => High chance of being biased. Let see the evidence...

From wikipedia article:
"The tablets are generally believed to have belonged to the "
Okay... this what you call clear evidence, a sentence full of conditional. Good to know.

quote: However, subsequent radiocarbon dating on the Tărtăria finds pushed the date of the tablets (and therefore of the whole Vinča culture) much further back, to as long ago as 5500 BC, the time of the early Eridu phase of the Sumerian civilization in Mesopotamia. Still, this is disputed in the light of apparently contradictory stratigraphic evidence.

Apparently contradictory evidence. Yet, Forever, you read "clear evidence". Sorry, but we have very different thinking processes...

quote: How do you feel if a secret is kept for 2000 years against your country just because roman empire pillaged and raped it to survie?

I won't loose sleep over it. I'm not responsible for the bad or the good things "My Country" did... and I'm not emotional about it. I can look at history and not care much...

quote: Romans had a way to call other nations just to have a reason to invade and enslave them: "They are barbarians".

lol... you feel hurt that romans, 2000 years ago, called people living in your area Barbarians? You are ripe for manipulation by far-right groups who want you to fight for your honor. This is a huge problem across Europe at the moment... think about it before you load a gun.

quote: *posts link to wikipedia* And its clear evidence.

- Forever

quote: If the symbols are indeed a form of writing, then writing in the Danubian culture would far predate the earliest Sumerian cuneiform script or Egyptian hieroglyphs. They would thus be the world's earliest known form of writing. This claim remains controversial.

- Wikipedia