Circuit AI (Skirmish)

Could be powerful when replacing one CAI in the CCR macro challenge.

Did you already think about merging this with CAI? Would that even be an option?

quote: Did you already think about merging this with CAI? Would that even be an option?

"Hmm, C++ interface AI and a Lua Gadget AI, let's merge them"

quote: Lord Muffe's AI > ZKGBAI > Circuit AI > CAI > NullAI

I haven't had the chance to run ZKGBAI vs CircuitAI yet. Last i've heard, CSI should plow through both of these, however.

Are you confusing LordMuffe with DeinFreund?

quote: unique features like energy-grid construction .. sniper spam

Hardly unique! :P

How could you confuse Failthas with Winstip?

Orfelius

quote: CSI > ZKGBAI > Circuit AI > CAI > NullAI

I think it's CSI > ZKGBAI > CAI > CircuitAI > NullAI. CircuitAI can't stand against coordinated attacks. It has chance to win only on small maps (or when other ai stuck) because it quickly fills the whole map with units.
(Is CSI a fork from ZKMBAI? Din't see it in action, although pathfinder and threat-maps on my todo list.)

Anarchid

quote: Hardly unique! :P

Ok, my bad. ZKMBAI and ZKGBAI had grids before my implementation. I'll just remove that unique "unique" from OP.

Skasi

quote: Did you already think about merging this with CAI? Would that even be an option?

Well algorithms/ideas could be translated into lua eventually. But i can't imagine it right now. Also boost's library components were used (Voronoi, Spatial tree, Graph) and multi-threading (probably not in most efficient way) that should be reimplemented or simplified in lua. And i don't know how memory-greedy CircuitAI is, never counted it.
Therefore i don't consider merging with CAI as an option (at least not until CircuitAI v1.0, if it ever happens).

quote: (Is CSI a fork from ZKMBAI? Din't see it in action, although pathfinder and threat-maps on my todo list.)

It's a rewrite rather than a fork, with even more focus on tactics. This time DF got them sufficiently right that eco doesn't let KGB get away.

Very good AI to play against!

My critique of Circuit AI:

•Does not know how to spend loads of money
---Suggested behavior: make CircuitAI build excessive numbers of caretakers near the factory, set to low priority to prevent missappropriation, and/or, CircuitAI set engineers or new caretakers to guard-assist allied factories.

•Does not reclaim enough wrecks
---Suggested behavior: more engineers constructed to have more available engineers to dedicate for reclaim, or, make CircuitAI queue caretaker chains from mex to mex, or any other pattern to eventually cover everything within reclaim range of a caretaker.

•Builds no new factories
---No suggestions.

•Suicide units with no retreat
---No suggesions

Formerly answered here.

Not included in that post are procurement manuals for CSI and CircuitAI.

CircuitAI's download link is actually in the OP.

CSI will have to be compiled manually, and its latest version (capable of using more factories) is actually not available at all (DeinFreund didn't push it to repo for some reason)

Just try looking slightly harder then ;)

In an ideal future, there would be one AI bot you add to a game - and it randomly selects one of the different AIs to insert into game. unpredictable AI opponents FTW.

Promoted Circuit to 0.7.
In battles vs CAI it feels pretty confident.
Sad that CSI or ZKGBAI doesn't have public release, can't test them.

Anyway, Circuit got raiding capabilities and should make life of opponents more interesting.
Hardcore (cheating) mode available, but only with dev version of the engine (101.0)