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Trololo i want it BACK!

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Firepluk
11 years ago
It really worst that trololo and some other really funny maps is banned on autohosts(autochange map right after the vote passed).
I think: don't block parts of game, becouse they is, it's fun, some of peoples like it more or less.
It's possible to limit trololo time map stays, or some other measures but not block it completly.
Suggestions?
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Firepluk
I know its still playbale in manual created games, but it's a bit hard to get peoples in such games, so now such maps if forced not to be played
(hard not becouse of trololo, becouse of manual rooms, no one joins it all prefer auto managed hosts)
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11 years ago
good riddance :)
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FIrankFFC
11 years ago
its good that trololo is banned from autohost
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11 years ago
I really hate maps like trolol and duck, but if the majority !vote for it, why is that bad? Perhaps it is the minority that should go to a manually created game (=
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Skasi
11 years ago
It is blocked because some developers consider quickmatching rooms as dedicated newbie rooms and Trololo as not newbie friendly.

If people don't feel like creating and joining a room manually to play this map, then they don't care enough and have to stick to QM rooms' maplist. Simple as that.
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11 years ago
I think trolol/duck etc. are easy to play.
Most people like simply gameplay and dislike
complex gameplay. Thats one reason why lol
is sucessful. Most people cant manage/think
about more than one think per time.

But on the other hand trolol/duck damage the game,
because they lead into monoculture.
Monoculture drain slowly the playerbase, because
most player like somethink new. (See BA --> DSD)

So I think its fun when the play sometimes, but not the whole time ;)
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11 years ago
you troll guys abusing the vote system and force start is why we cant have troll maps, not the map itself. In any case, last time I checked anyone can host games, so feel free to host trololo
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11 years ago
I am glad those maps are banned from autohost. Its not newbie friendly because you are right into attack with a bad commander, there is no time to learn the game. People complain about chickens being bad guide for learning the game properly, trollmaps are the same.
Why is it so hard to manually start a room if so many people like it?
It can be fun once in a while but if the map is on trolmaps some people ninjavote and ninjastart to prevent other maps.
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11 years ago
>I think trolol/duck etc. are easy to play.

Newbs don't understand why their com is instantly surrounded by 10 other coms and instantly killed. It makes ZK seem like some sort of arena game, not an RTS. I have no problem with Trololo, we just need to keep it in a "silly games" server that will make it clear to the users that they are playing a silly game, and one not representative of the majority of ZK gameplay.
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Skasi
11 years ago
Users ARE in an arena when playing ZK. There's no way to flee, ever.
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11 years ago
that is, so long as nobody hides fleas in the titan duel potholes
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11 years ago
STFU plz. thanks.
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11 years ago
So, trolls want to play Trolol, everyone else hates it?

Right, good to know.
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11 years ago
yea seems so.
Why is there not an option with keep big teams - add special host in the poll?
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11 years ago
why? because of.... no.
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11 years ago
i like trololo from time to time.
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11 years ago
Ivory> you troll guys abusing the vote system and force start is why we cant have troll maps, not the map itself. In any case, last time I checked anyone can host games, so feel free to host trololo

Yes I think this is the real issue - if you want to play troll maps it forces you to think and act like a kid :P


Skasi> Users ARE in an arena when playing ZK. There's no way to flee, ever.

If games would not take longer than 30 minutes, you could easier join other games.
Big teams splits players too much - nobody enters other rooms.

Nobody joins 1v1 rooms (good to learn to avoid your own faults) and when someone does, only because you didn't click spec - game instant-starts after a join without even a ring is even worse than no game (because it hits you while you are eating, working elsewhere or reading a book).


The solutions are much simpler than we think:
* reduce game time to 30 minutes.
* get newbe/troll rooms and competitive rooms (good approach and preparation for PW too).
(Rename rooms)
* ZK Small trolling room (newbes welcome)
* ZK Medium trolling room (newbes welcome)
* ZK 1v1: competitive entrance
* ZK Test: Test the new balance first! (pass=test)
* * It should say you what revision the last stable has, and link to the changes page.
* ZK Small competitive room (no trolling)
* ZK Medium competitive room (no trolling)
* ZK Big room, no lol maps (newbes+trolls welcome)

The big room is for trolls and newbes both - we have not the playerbase to split big team games.
And if you don't want trolls (go to medium room) it encourages more parallel games.
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11 years ago
Hi HiKitty your suggestion are nice, but if you may
noticed our playerbase is small (Max is Saturday and Sunday evening
and night with about max. 40 player).
So if we had 100 to 200 you suggestion would be fine.
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11 years ago
Apparently we have an average of about 275 unique players per day.
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