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Title: TEAMS: Newbies welcome!
Host: CZrankSpringie3
Game version: Zero-K v1.0.6.8
Engine version: 88.0
Battle ID: 85163
Started: 11 years ago
Duration: 88 minutes
Players: 8
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1
Chance of victory: 41.6%

USrankHinoki
USrankB_rabb
CZrankFanda
FRrankstwiky
Team 2
Chance of victory: 58.4%

FRrankEphinox
PLrankniktu
ITrankendrix
DErankStriKejk
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RUrank[tre]PAK

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11 years ago
nice bugabuse stwiky
lucky that admin's are really nice in this game, dunno why. I would ban you atleast for a week -lol-
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11 years ago
stwiky exploited the "plane outside the map bug" and for some reason the !kick command wasn't able to be used by anyone. Springie was saying they didn't have the proper rights. stwiky continued to harrass them all game forcing them to guess how many units he had left.

Then, after all that, stwiky tried to resign, but didn't know how. He kept calling for a !resign vote, but he was the only player on his team, and two players are required to vote before it can pass. He didn't know how to self-d and didn't know how to self-resign.

So, StriKejk, before you get angry at admins (who weren't even there to see this game) and blame us for not doing anything, please realise:

There's more to most problems than you realize. By everything I saw, after watching all ninety freaking minutes of that replay, stwiky tried to resign but didn't know how.

Also, your report was very poor. How to improve it for the future:

1)State what the problem was
2)State who caused the problem
3)State when it happened

It's annoying to have to watch a 90 minute game to find a problem that you could have described in a few sentences.
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11 years ago
Shitheads like that deserve punishment. Even if he didnt know how to resign he could have sended his units to suicide.

Also my eco victory idea (auto win if other team got over 100x more metal) would have prevented shit like this.
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11 years ago
autowin with 100x more metal, bad idea imo.
That means you automatically lose with +0.0 metal. There are situations possible (during a base race or air rush for example) where you lose all your income but are not out of the game yet.

or...

LOL!

paralyze the starting commander and the first mex with a gunship rush and GG
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11 years ago
He didn't say income. He said metal.

Anyways, once a fighter leaves the map you may not be able to control it? I'm not sure, I've never had this exploit happen to me.
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11 years ago
If he knows how to exploit an off-map plane bug, then he knows how to self-d. Though which bug, the 'crashing unit goes below the map' or the 'fly sideways outside the map bounds'? Accidental, or otherwise?
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11 years ago
Maybe exploit is the wrong word. It can definitely happen accidentally. It was the fly sideways outside the map bug. Heck, I still don't know how you do that bug.
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11 years ago
I meant more metal in units. I cant think of any realistic situation where 100x more metal in units doesnt mean auto win. It would fix all this shit with ppl hiding their fleas across the map to prevent them from losing or exploiting bugs like this.
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11 years ago
@ Antelope
Well then you didn't watched the game properly.
He knows how to go outside of a game with "Esc" Resign. Here is a little conversation in the game:
Me: Can you go out, its annoying! (dont know the exact Phrase..)
Him: When you kill my last Unit i go out.
...
And no i wasn't angry at any admins, i was angry about the fact that this game under some circumstances (kick doesnt work, resign too) there is no proper way to solve such a problem "quickly" so you dont have to watch the ninety freaking minutes. And remember i played the ninety freaking minutes and half of it was waiting, i telling him to go out of the game. So dont Blame other player because they are mad after waiting a full hour after a game is over because someone want to go out and make jokes about it, and the only thing i become from the last hope (admins) is "no i can't do anything.".
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11 years ago
>Me: Can you go out, its annoying! (dont know the exact Phrase..)
>Him: When you kill my last Unit i go out.

How does this prove that he knows how to shift+esc resign?

>and the only thing i become from the last hope (admins) is "no i can't do anything.".

I need to have hard evidence that he did this on purpose. I'm not going to go around banning players because I think they may have done something wrong. The evidence is not clear enough in this case. If he really is a troll and continues this behavior, that is more evidence against him. However, a single use of a bug exploit that can happen on accident, by a new player who doesn't know everything, doesn't constitute a ban in my opinion. The best thing you can do is:

1)Write a better report the first time
2)Don't blame admins for not banning players. There are reasons.
3)Submit reports for any other games that he does this one. The first time could be an accident; more cases are probably trolling.

We're here to help you out. Just realize that if we ban every single instance of possibletrolling, we'll run out of players quickly.
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11 years ago
Well im new too as you can see, so where can i write a "battle report" ? Can i do that in a game or after a game? After a game would be senseless in this problem. And i say it again, i didn't blame admins i blamed the problem that there is no better way to solve that problems.
Furthermore you can kick them instead of banning, that wont be a problem for the player itselfs it just end's the game fast. I dont see the problem by doing that, we would do that but kick wasn't working.
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11 years ago
Econ victory would probably be good. I think it would be worthwhile to implement it at 1000x or so and revert if it wrongfully resigns any games.
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11 years ago
1000x is a bit too much i think. That means for 1 flea he pretty much needs a detriment to get eco victory. 2000 metal vs 1 flea is enough i guess xd
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11 years ago
I think 20k metal sounds like a pretty normal amount of stuff for an entire team to have, but I'm totally just guessing.
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11 years ago
Although I guess if someone is making a dedicated effort to stall the game (spamming ticks and hiding them) 1000x metal could get out of reach pretty quickly.

Also, teams that have no constructors, factories, or armed buildings or units should be resigned. Solars shouldn't keep a team in the game.
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11 years ago
Anthem: In the games I've specced lately, individual players typically have between 5k and 15k in mobile units.
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11 years ago
Well for 1 avenger you need a shitload of stuff with 1000x more metal. And what if he hides 10 fleas across the map? I think 100x metal is more than enough. There is simply no way you can win if you are that much behind unless you manage to kill a singu thats chained through their entire base and all their units but i dont really count that as being 'realistic'.
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