Wreck values

Tis something I have been meaning to ask for a while but keep forgetting.

The wiki seems to have very limited/no information regarding the value of wrecks. How do we figure that out without checking ingame?

Are wreck values set individually per unit? Is there a universal formula?

There is a splash screen that says that "up to 40%" of a unit's metal is left in the wrecks. But that only implies that 40% is the maximum value across all units. The fact it doesn't just state 40% outright implies some units leave less.

I seem to recall hearing somewhere that units like raiders leave smaller wreck percentages, so that deep raids make more economic sense (since those usually result in total loss of the raiding forces).

In short, is there a formula for determining the wreck percentage a unit leaves behind based on class? If not, is this listed somewhere? Having this information easily accessible would be nice, since knowing who's gonna get how much wreckage is important for the strategic planning of deep raids/attacks of all sorts and figuring out how much metal damage they need to do to make cost.

I haven't been playing much lately. I still enjoying talking about the game when I'm not.

Le edit: I just saw that, actually, the wiki does inform this. Somehow I missed that. Sorry =)

The language around the top percentages is a little vague though. If I understood that thread correctly the wreck always starts with 40% metal and will only have less if someone already reclaimed it a bit, and debris will have half of whatever its wreck still had.

quote: No debris is when unit died to colossal damage [?x HP] 20% [debris state] is when unit died to excessive damage [2x HP] 40% [wreck state] is when unit has died. 50% is when unit is alive and is being reclaimed, OR there is a nanoframe being reclaimed 100% is when you cancel out production on factory or plate piece.

I have some notes:

• Units always drop debris or a wreck. There is no 'colossal damage' category. The observations about Dgun dealing colossal damage in the previous thread are most likely because Dgun deals massive damage over a few frames, so kills the debris shortly after it is created. There may be a few outdated scripts where this is untrue, or a bug.
• Whether a unit turns into debris or a wreck is determined by a variable called 'recentDamage', not the just the last instance. I never learnt the details of this, it will be something deep in the engine.
• Units that have never been completed return 100% their metal value when reclaimed. A unit that was once a live unit returns 50%.

Important to note, when a factory building a unit dies, that unit's sunk cost is NOT returned. It becomes 20% value metal scraps according to how much metal you've put into it already. The 100% refund only occurs if you manually cancel production of the unit.

In team games, that metal refund can overflow into other teammate's storage, so if you want it all yourself build storages. If the team as a whole(or just yourself in a 1v1) does not have enough storage, that extra refunded metal gets wasted.

when someone goes afk does the metal in their storage vanish ?

When someone goes AFK, they lose all their units including their storages andcom. I notice that when that happens I get a storage burst of increase. All their storage is shifted into other player's storages, I'm not sure if it's team wide or to the person who recieved the units though. But thankfully it does not disapear.

When you come back from AFK and your storage goes from not existing to existing again, you lose all that metal to your teammates though XD

quote: I'm pretty sure you could reclaim 100% from incomplete units at one point. I wonder when or how this was changed.

Wow. I suggest you make a reverting change to code so that the reality of game corresponds to your presumed vision. Oh, gonna have so much fun with nanoframes...

quote: An abandoned team would still have storage and income if all of its units were not transferred, and if the overdrive gadget didn't step in to not share metal towards teams with no active players. When a team loses all of its storage it automatically shares its resources to its allies.

So stockpiled metal DOES NOT gets transferred together with storage to ONE player? It gets SHARED TO ALL because of LACK of storage of AFK player?

This carries some implication that is not obvious. From your words, it must be so that when certain player with, say, 10 storage and full metal stockpile (5500) gets his storages wiped out by, say, nuke, his metal reserves should be shared with his team. Is it correct? Or does the way that storages were lost to player influences fate of metal?

quote: This carries some implication that is not obvious. From your words, it must be so that when certain player with, say, 10 storage and full metal stockpile (5500) gets his storages wiped out by, say, nuke, his metal reserves should be shared with his team. Is it correct? Or does the way that storages were lost to player influences fate of metal?

I'm pretty sure that the resources are simply lost just like what happens if a factory dies with a unit in production.

canceling any morph refunds the spent metal, not energy.

I hope GF is wrong because it means that team killing a teammate's storages returns the metal to the team and I have no doubt it will lead to annoyed teams team killing storages built by noobs. Any team killing will result in a ruined game....