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Title: ggg op nerf etc
Host: FIrankFine
Game version: Zero-K 1.10.6.0
Engine version: 105.1.1-841-g099e9d0
Started: 20 months ago
Duration: 10 minutes
Players: 2
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20 months ago
does dagger have counterplay?
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20 months ago
Dart counters them but with Cloaky it's hard. Later you can use Conjurer, Warrior=Reaver and Tick=Imp. Probably, that's not enough to compensate Dagger's early game advantage, though. Maybe it can be done by using Conjurer cloaked Glaive swarms in the early game but then you still have a mobility disadvantage.
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20 months ago
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Dart counters them

not anymore :(

Cloaky kinda has to give hovers map control when fighting dagger. Cloaky can still try and defend/expand using llt, reavers and imps. Hovers arent really going to take down llt forests any time soon, so expanding behind llt can keep cloaky safe. Depending on the map, cloaky might be able to push with a reaver ronin army before hovers are able to use their map control advantage. Cloaky will probably have an advantage in the lategame against hover, if there is enough dagger-proof expansion for cloaky to have the economy to make a strong ronin reaver push.

TBH though, this map is so large and flat that it will be hard for cloaky to safely expand against dagger, and push with ronin reaver. Dagger gets map control and hovers are able to naked expand pretty hard and get a large eco advantage. Hovers are basically free to do whatever after that point (facswitch to actually beat cloaky army, air switch, etc)
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