Does anyone have a VC uncle here? (wanna do atv startup)

if people are going to work with you.. lets see how well you do with critical thinking...

what if im an investor and i say..

tempered glass is expensive and would possibly push this out of the consumer range price bracket

how would you react to that investors concerns?

Also the safety glass in many areas of homologations is non neotiable musthave, that lead to lots of highly tuned specialised safety glass facilities so production is streamlined and polished over like last 70 years so kinda industry standard, so in what exact context do you ask?

EU L7e-CP is real, others do it: https://electrek.co/2022/10/17/microlino-light-debut-tiny-electric-car-paris-motor-show/

photo not mine, this is of swiss micrtolino that goes for 15k€, mine is 3k€ and flatter and streamlined for max L7e speeds of 90kmh (with possibility of going big proper car in 5-7 years), and its set for mild offroad having side by side dune buggy surfer car or hiker car that in city works as a groccery getter. Also hybrid, not full electric.

i know how to do it on cheap and good at same time:

Something for surfer/hiker/offgrider demographic that doubles down as a beach buggy.
Something that will be a hit in 2nd world /BRICS countries which economy relies on 50cc scooters.

2 seater mild offroader dune buggy that is a grocery getter, that can float, at the cost of 50cc scooter.

I am looking for people with real VC connections and i know some of you do finance IT or some higher level stuff.

Wanna help out make apple grade POSH mild offroad ATV / EU mini street grocery getter in L7e-CP homologation? (that has potential to be amphibious at no extra cost with the production technology used).

SmokeDragon the one in vid is an older design and not that we talk about.

And the one in vid without windmill, without trailer is 7k€. there are cnc pipe bending thechinques, there are 2d cnc sheet metal cutting, and were talking only about that. what you see in that vid is a posh version of sandrail that passes as an urban groccery getter if you know how to rollcage using cnc pipe benders and nifty flat cut panels instead of full on heavy 3d presses used in traditional metal shaping it comes cheap.. think this:



but more posh version of it, like rain proofed.

With all machinery and gymnastics of workforce to pay for it will add up to around 7k€, sub1k€ per engine wheels and power, 1k€ in materials, .5k€ in outsourcing cnc pipe bending and offsetting misc machinery, .5k€ for rent, .5k€ legalese, 2k€ workforce and rest is profit. this ends with a pie to cut with VC of 750k€ profit on 500unit production. thats like 2 units a day with 5 people crew over a year. the numbers are highly conservative, like 2k€ budget in workforce per unit with 2 units a day gives capacity to hire 20 entry level ppl with 2k€/m when in poland 1k€/m is baseline salary so realy conservative numbers, esp were talking here about shit optimised and thought through, and complexity of high end mtb bike or gokart where 5 ppl would easily do piece those 2 units a day. so like better to over budget and have extra gains than other way around.

What you see in that vid is i.e. upper and lower reflectors being same stamped shape, tail lights being led strips, outside hinges. and other measures that make it work on cheaps. you see all wheel fenders of same shape, with front extra stamp step to fit in blinkers or maybe a plastic glued on blinker on top. i have a history in Assembler optimizations along with slavs who did mandelbrot real time alogos on 486 era puters, or translated on fast ones on c64 for shits and giggles.

Since then i figured out even better techique. But thats talk only under NDA with someone of VC pedigree.

SmokeDragon, so like you know somoene whose into VC or just asking out of curiosity? IIRC you were with Atlasian, i have some other friend but hes CSIRO, so not much business contacts there. I have some highschool guy whos in city of london with business IT, doing yahts with money people, so maybe this, i have ex whos parents are CFO of 3M for poland, but shes deep into making happy pills for DARPA and were not on happy terms rn since whe had all to land a family on offgrid and she chose that crap. some big guys are here as well so like yea. cant hurt to ask.

ok... sorry im too poor to finance you

but i can offer you this invisible path.. there you go.. now your on it.. keep going and follow it all the way to the end