Energy Cell (module) needs buff

It is currently less efficient than the solar.
70/2 = 35 => 35 m for 1 unit of e
250/6 = 41.6 repeating => slightly more than 41 m for 1 unit of e.
It is basically useless. In my opinion, in order to make it worth something, it should be the most efficient energy producer. More efficient than Singularity.

It was already buffed two days ago. It's now pretty close but not exactly as efficient as a fusion. If there's a bug, let me know.

Making it any more efficient would be too much, since the buildpower for the module is totally free. It's kind of a mobile fusion with the potential to jump and fly.

I have been discussing about a new module that would be labeled "Singularity Core", that'd require comm morph 3 and would be limited to a single module, but for now that's only an idea. I don't want modules to be too similar.

Skasi
Would that com explode like nuke then it dies? :D

Even if it is slightly less efficent than solar, it is still crap.

Commander module takes no time to build and commanders have a lot more survivability than a solar. Other than "commanders should be flat out better than other options" I see no reason for the module to be better than solar.

They don't need to provide a grid, because you use that energy for building instead of overdrive.

I don't understand why they should provide those other things you mentioned. Com is far far less vulnerable to raiding than solars already (remember, solars close and temporarily lose energy production if something spits on them).

Zeus is a poor example because it is designed for assault. Would you make zeus so they could sit in your base and produce energy? Uh, no, that's a waste of their offensive abilities, you use them for assault. If you make an eco-based commander though, it is fine to leave him in the base because he doesn't really have any offensive abilities to be wasted.

Ha, I swear I wasn't stalking this thread, I just happened to check it now.

Ok, I see what you mean. Yes, a com and 3 solars have more combined hitpoints than just a commander, so I suppose you could say it will 'take more to kill them", and so forth, and I guess that is your reasoning.

But you have to be careful not to get lost in pure numbers. It is good to use numbers as a check, but they need to mean something in realistic ingame scenarios. Realistically, you aren't going to lose your commander at the game start (barring some cheese/all-in you don't scout, but then you rather deserve it). While solars on the other hand tend to be very vulnerable to things like napalm bombers, or even just scouts that poke them closed a bit. So while com+solars has larger numbers in hp, a com with energy production is actually safer. It seems counter-intuitive, but I am quite serious. Some of my early game is just about trying to energy stall the opponent a bit. And this is harder to do to the energy module. Because its not about picking off one, or nudging a few closed a bit. It's all or nothing trying to kill the commander.

Now it's not like the difference between +6 and +8 is game breaking. But you have to remember when it comes to unlocks, everything is supposed to be balanced slightly underpowered when it doubt, for reasons I already described.

I think the main problem is, it is useless at higher morph levels because of the inherent morph bonuses, which all tend toward better combat abilities, even for eco com. So you only want to morph your com to use it offensively, otherwise those offensive abilities go to waste. So you would never equip modules for higher morphs that would leave your com better off sitting in your base.

the energy module does make sense on the first basic level.
-It gives you energy straight from the start of the game
-saves 70 metal. (One or two more raiders)
-saves time making the first solar (so it is a bit of a buildpower boost in disguise)

Of course all of this only effects the first 2-3 minutes of the game. But if you plan to do some sort of rush on a small map i can imagine me using one.

oh, i should have known that, im such a noob XD
better not to take it then :P

The E-cell absolutely has to be worse than a solar. The whole point of the thing is comm-pushing, and a solar means stopping to plop the solar before you push.

I mean, you're going to build that solar anyways. It's not like that solar's optional. So basically your choice isn't "build it or not" but "built into comm or not". The only advantage of the latter is the ODnetwork - otherwise, the comm is better in every possible way.

The only real disadvantage to he upgrade is that it consumes a slot... and the upgrades are supposed to be balanced vs. *not having them*, not balanced vs. other upgrades.