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5/2/2016 1:31:12 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
5/2/2016 1:28:14 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
5/2/2016 1:20:15 PMunknownrankShaman before revert after revert
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1 Honestly, it's more of a wrong action at wrong time scenario. You did however kind of screw your own team with 1 Honestly, it's more of a wrong action at wrong time scenario. You did however kind of screw your own team with
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3 [quote]he has 2x more air, they have 2x BB, and they have bantha while [b]we have dante[/b][/quote] 3 [quote]he has 2x more air, they have 2x BB, and they have bantha while [b]we have dante[/b][/quote]
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5 If you said this in ally chat just before you resigned, you wouldn't have been called out for it. I'll try to explain this part here: 5 If you said this in ally chat just before you resigned, you wouldn't have been called out for it. I'll try to explain this part here:
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7 [quote]Now comes the Chesti troll: 7 [quote]Now comes the Chesti troll:
8 [13:39] Springiee [Chesti]no spec cheat Svatopluk 8 [13:39] Springiee [Chesti]no spec cheat Svatopluk
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10 [13:40] Chesti it is spec cheat... only spectators can see all... 10 [13:40] Chesti it is spec cheat... only spectators can see all...
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12 [13:41] Chesti Svatopluk do not give any information about units as spectator.. thats it[/quote] 12 [13:41] Chesti Svatopluk do not give any information about units as spectator.. thats it[/quote]
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14 What you said (after resigning and becoming a spectator) could be [u]seen[/u] as speccheating. Namely: 14 What you said (after resigning and becoming a spectator) could be [u]seen[/u] as speccheating. Namely:
15 [quote]they obviously outeco us;about 2x[/quote]. @Chesti could have seen the eco panel (at the time it reported 112 / 68 or something like that.. however your team was the one's with 112!) and thought "oh he's speccheating... gentle warning time" and you thought "but it's fine though!" and felt that @Chesti was in the wrong. The result was you blowing up (likely from feeling internal/external frustration of some kind from the game with this perceived grievance being the trigger to set you off) and now we're in this situation. 15 [quote]they obviously outeco us;about 2x[/quote]. @Chesti could have seen the eco panel (at the time it reported 112 / 68 or something like that.. however your team was the one's with 112!) and thought "oh he's speccheating... gentle warning time" and you thought "but it's fine though!" and felt that @Chesti was in the wrong. The result was you blowing up (likely from feeling internal/external frustration of some kind from the game with this perceived grievance being the trigger to set you off) and now we're in this situation.
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17 Looking at the situation, @Chesti's response could have been better by just adding "You might not think it's speccheating, but you should watch what you say after resigning please." (this is more of a response that signals the end of discussion and prevents escalation while asserting the original stance) or something along those lines, which might have just prevented the whole scenario. On the other hand, you should word your response differently. Instead of "I'm not speccheating!" (it comes off as defensive) you should say "I don't think I'm really speccheating." maybe even throw in "but I'll try to _____." Doing it this way will help prevent situations like this from occurring. 17 Looking at the situation, @Chesti's response could have been better by just adding "You might not think it's speccheating, but you should watch what you say after resigning please." (this is more of a response that signals the end of discussion and prevents escalation while asserting the original stance) or something along those lines, which might have just prevented the whole scenario. On the other hand, you should word your response differently. Instead of "I'm not speccheating!" (it comes off as defensive) you should say "I don't think I'm really speccheating." maybe even throw in "but I'll try to _____." Doing it this way will help prevent situations like this from occurring.
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19 Lastly, you just have to remember what you say in all chat after you throw in the towel affects your teammates' will to continue on. That's all @Chesti was trying to say. 19 Lastly, you just have to remember what you say in all chat after you throw in the towel affects your teammates' will to continue on. That's all @Chesti was trying to say.
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21 PS: 21 PS:
22 Thank you for being mature and admitting your wrong doing. Really, that's cool that you're one of the few people who will admit fault. However, I don't think it's worth creating more drama about. So let's try to keep things civilized and turn this thread into a productive channel of communication. Instead of "lets deadmin Chesti! Behead he!" how about you focus on what specific issues you have with him and, going forward, what changes to his behavior would make you more likely to be receptive to his feedback? Like, for example: 22 Thank you for being mature and admitting your wrong doing. Really, that's cool that you're one of the few people who will admit fault. However, I don't think it's worth creating more drama about. So let's try to keep things civilized and turn this thread into a productive channel of communication. Instead of "lets deadmin Chesti! Behead he!" how about you focus on what specific issues you have with him and, going forward, what changes to his behavior would make you more likely to be receptive to his feedback? Like, for example:
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24 @Chesti, I feel that you __[something he does that you don't like]__ and it would be better if you __[some action he could take]__. 24 @Chesti, I feel that you __[something he does that you don't like]__ and it would be better if you __[some action he could take]__.
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26 If anyone who has a problem with @Chesti could do this, I think it would be more productive and lead to better communications between @Chesti and the respondent. (In fact, you should do this to everyone who you have a problem with! It's a great method of feedback so long as you refrain from attacking words, insults (both real and perceivable), etc.) 26 If anyone who has a problem with @Chesti could do this, I think it would be more productive and lead to better communications between @Chesti and the respondent. (In fact, you should do this to everyone who you have a problem with! It's a great method of feedback so long as you refrain from attacking words, insults (both real and perceivable), etc.)
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28 PSS: 28 PSS:
29 Let's get off this silly notion that everyone here is here to watch the world burn. Very few, if any, are here to piss anyone off on purpose. Chesti's not here to piss you off @Svatopluk nor is he probably here gunning to punish anyone in some strange way to take his anger or feelings out on us. 29 Let's get off this silly notion that everyone here is here to watch the world burn. Very few, if any, are here to piss anyone off on purpose. Chesti's not here to piss you off @Svatopluk.
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31 [quote]the fact that there is bad blood between chesti and some players is unfortunate[/quote]
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33 Time for bloodletting then. Consider this an invitation for Chesti/People who have problems with chesti to get things off their chest in a non-hostile manner.