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[q]Perhaps... depth charge bomber? It could be really slow and its depth charge could just completely ignore shields. I'm just throwing ideas out there, but it could be an interesting solution.[/q]
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[q]Perhaps... depth charge bomber? It could be really slow and its depth charge could just completely ignore shields. I'm just throwing ideas out there, but it could be an interesting solution.[/q]
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Ignoring shields seems bad. Arbitrary. Why does the weapon get to ignore them? Does it deal enough damage to overwhelm them? Is it piercing like Dgun?
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Ignoring shields seems bad. Arbitrary. Why does the weapon get to ignore them? Does it deal enough damage to overwhelm them? Is it piercing like Dgun?
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But also, is there actually a problem? At minute 40 both top fronts have about 5k in directly relevant shields with an extra 3k or so behind, providing some charge support. Both sides have spent a while throwing missiles at each other, whittling away at the shields. The artillery on each side varies, but very rarely crosses 5k cost, with a Tremor and a Merlin sometimes firing at the same time.
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But also, is there actually a problem? At minute 40 both top fronts have about 5k in directly relevant shields with an extra 3k or so behind, providing some charge support. Both sides have spent a while throwing missiles at each other, whittling away at the shields. The artillery on each side varies, but very rarely crosses 5k cost, with a Tremor and a Merlin sometimes firing at the same time.
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East loses a lot of shields and artillery shortly afterwards, to Shockley and Inferno. So it looks like area shields were countered. But I guess you mean that West's shields were not countered? I claim that East never made counters. Firing Shockley into the shields with no followup is not a counter. Making 5k in artillery against more than 5k in shields, with no followup, is not a counter.
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East loses a lot of shields and artillery shortly afterwards, to Shockley and Inferno. So it looks like area shields were countered. But I guess you mean that West's shields were not countered? I claim that East never made counters. Firing Shockley into the shields with no followup is not a counter. Making 5k in artillery against more than 5k in shields, with no followup, is not a counter.
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* East was suppressing the shields for the first half the the game but only ever moved towards them with a single Minotaur.
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* East was suppressing the shields for the first half the the game but only ever moved towards them with a single Minotaur.
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* East made better use of shields early, but regularly lost their entire artillery force to Eos.
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* East made better use of shields early, but regularly lost their entire artillery force to Eos.
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* East attacks with a Paladin around 28:00, with no support, which ends up in the lava. It did something, but Paladin has terrible damage for its cost.
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* East attacks with a Paladin around 28:00, with no support, which ends up in the lava. It did something, but Paladin has terrible damage for its cost.
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* East keeps sending individual Minotaurs at the enemy defenses. Sometimes it switches to sending a handful of Ravagers and Rippers.
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* East keeps sending individual Minotaurs at the enemy defenses. Sometimes it switches to sending a handful of Ravagers and Rippers.
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West ends up winning the top front, but doesn't have any army to make this victory worth anything. East just loses a little ground while West keeps pouring metal into shielded defenses. It feels like East did one of the counters to shields, which is to put resources into doing something else.
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West ends up winning the top front, but doesn't have any army to make this victory worth anything. East just loses a little ground while West keeps pouring metal into shielded defenses. It feels like East did one of the counters to shields, which is to put resources into doing something else.
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If shields were so bad that it is impossible to win a front by both overspending on shields and hoping that your opponent never attacks, then wouldn't shields just be universally bad? That seems like a worse game.
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