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10/1/2013 10:30:39 AMMYrankAdminHistidine before revert after revert
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1 [quote]Another prime example of Dev not discussing the actual content, just meta-conversation. That's at Anarchid.[/quote] 1 [quote]Another prime example of Dev not discussing the actual content, just meta-conversation. That's at Anarchid.[/quote]
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3 And just what exactly is it you're doing with posts like this? 3 And just what exactly is it you're doing with posts like this?
4 [quote]KingRaptor, when I said Devs aren't listening, I didnt' mean they're not participating in the conversation. I mean they're not doing a good job of getting users to articulate their compaints into data they can use to figure out what is it they unintentionally broke. As a result, they have no understanding of the consequences of what their patches. 4 [quote]KingRaptor, when I said Devs aren't listening, I didnt' mean they're not participating in the conversation. I mean they're not doing a good job of getting users to articulate their compaints into data they can use to figure out what is it they unintentionally broke. As a result, they have no understanding of the consequences of what their patches.
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6 There's a difference between talking and communicating. I'm getting the sense Dev's are not really trying to understand user concerns, that's all. In fact, I see them spending more time talking about how to discredit and rage at each other than the actual subject itself. 6 There's a difference between talking and communicating. I'm getting the sense Dev's are not really trying to understand user concerns, that's all. In fact, I see them spending more time talking about how to discredit and rage at each other than the actual subject itself.
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8 For example, some Dev knocked on my Elo. But as Pxtl pointed out, this game franchise benefitted from the development and design of a horrible player, Caydr. So his point about Elo has little weight. 8 For example, some Dev knocked on my Elo. But as Pxtl pointed out, this game franchise benefitted from the development and design of a horrible player, Caydr. So his point about Elo has little weight.
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10 Another Example: 10 Another Example:
11 A Dev attacked [Troll]Sfireman's method of using Dets, and called it "Taking away his toys", while addressing none of the legitimate concerns he raised. 11 A Dev attacked [Troll]Sfireman's method of using Dets, and called it "Taking away his toys", while addressing none of the legitimate concerns he raised.
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13 This is what I mean by Devs are not listening. And it's frustrating because this is a game we all care about... FFS, we play it practically everyday.[/quote] 13 This is what I mean by Devs are not listening. And it's frustrating because this is a game we all care about... FFS, we play it practically everyday.[/quote]
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15 Also: 15 Also:
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17 1) It's not our job to explain to users how to articulate complaints into data (although we often do, simply because that's the only option we have), let alone how to do elementary things such as not posting blatantly false claims - I imagine that would be the role of the public education system in whatever country they grew up in. 17 1) It's not our job to explain to users how to articulate complaints into data (although we often do, simply because that's the only option we have), let alone how to do elementary things such as not posting blatantly false claims - I imagine that would be the role of the public education system in whatever country they grew up in.
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19 2) A claim that can be discredited by evidence and logic should be. 19 2) A claim that can be discredited by evidence and logic should be.
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21 But yes, concerning the problem specifically: Since @GoogleFrog was responsible for the original nerf, and he doesn't like me touching balance, I'll leave it to him to figure out a solution. That said, given that it has been shown that the original game on which the complaint is based is worthless as evidence of Det being UP, it's very likely that [u]nothing will be done until someone produces better evidence.[/u]