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Title: Zero-K: All Welcome
Host: CZrankSpringiee
Game version: Zero-K v1.3.11.3
Engine version: 100.0
Battle ID: 386823
Started: 9 years ago
Duration: 19 minutes
Players: 2
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1 Lost
Chance of victory: 9.6%
XP gained: 191
RUrankAdminikinz died in 19 minutes
Team 2 Won!
Chance of victory: 90.4%
XP gained: 127
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9 years ago
Casted on YouTube.

Timidity isn't a strong personality trait.
+0 / -0

9 years ago
It looks like you underestimate scythes and overestimate wolverines.

Wolverines can lock out scythes if the scythes don't have any alternative routes. Since this map is wide open, scythes would assassinate wolverines every time.
If you want to understand the plight scythe spam puts an opponent in, maybe you should play against it. I can basically guarantee wolverine won't work until midgame or later.

It also feels like you're judging ikinz harshly, considering ikinz couldn't see a single opposing unit until it started hitting him, while specs have all information. This is particularly obvious in the early game when you're wondering why ikinz isn't attacking (I also believe he made the right call btw, riotbattlecome + two scythe + lotus is hard to break).

Personally I'd have expanded aggressively, flushed the map with darts, stacked up a leveler ball, then eventually sieged him out with wolverines or impaler. Not sure how well it would've worked.
+3 / -0
Fair point, I considered darts after the match and wish I had mentioned them, since in a previous cast I pointed out using darts explicitly as the way to flush out scythes, even going so far as to cheat myself into the replay to demonstrate.

Also, I don't know why I was so harsh. I haven't been that harsh in a long time, I really don't know what so pissed me off then that I got so much on RUrankAdminikinz 's case. I feel bad about that, sorry RUrankAdminikinz.
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9 years ago
do... do you still love me?.. sob



Honestly after watching I was a bit disappointed, I expected you to roast me more harshly based on the comments. Don't judge yourself too harshly for judging players too harshly, you can often see mind-bogglingly stupid things being done, and I think it's good to point them out, especially when your framing is "I hope you win I'm rooting for you please don't do stupid shit come on please you shouldn't have lost this".

The timidity with the starting 5 scorchers was instinct telling me that if he had not sent anything out by that time, he must've had enough porc and units to deal with the scorchers.

After that the idea was to contain him so he can sit and porc and overdrive his corner, which worked somewhat, but I kept making scorchers that are crap against scythe spam for too long and tried to use levellers as assaults.

Rapiers were a bad call, banshess kill scythes much better, but really the gs switch was a bad idea, I should have just gone shields after seeing him spam scythe, because lv aren't good against them. Or go amph and spam buoy and hope he doesn't get enough snipers.
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quote:
Rapiers were a bad call, banshess kill scythes much better

I stand by my statements that Rapiers wouldn't be there to kill scythes, but rather to kill everything else leaving the Scythes powerless to deal with them. That's where Wolverine mines would also have come in, since the Scythes would have gone for a base trade and been stuffed by the mines.

Of course, darts are still the more cost-effective option for decloaking, that or Shield switch for Dirtbags.

And yeah, I still think you are alright.
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9 years ago
One roach could have messed svato up so bad.
Anyway, scythes have the advantage of being able to choose advantageous engagements. The way to counter that is to force engagements by attacking. With two scorchers you can kill llts even with solar walls, so with 4 scorchers you can hit two positions at the same time, which would not give svato enough time to send scythes to both sides. With some darts for spotting you might even be able to keep both scorcher squads alive. Then it is a question of expanding faster than the slow scythes can raid, and defending with scorchers and darts.
He either has one sstrong ball that can be at only one place, or two or more weaker groups that you should be able to counter.
+3 / -0


9 years ago
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One roach could have messed svato up so bad.


Pity the light vehicles factory can't produce Roaches.
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