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Title: [A] Teams All Welcome #1
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K test-20269-17c9989
Engine version: 2025.04.11
Battle ID: 2320325
Started: 11 days ago
Duration: 6 minutes
Players: 6
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Chance of victory: 55.2%

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Team 2
Chance of victory: 44.8%

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11 days ago
I still think Pyros are op - this is the kind of way they are frequently played that shows it.

How do you stop this other than insanely good micro or llts littered around your base?
+2 / -0
11 days ago
I did not see any point in which the pyro faced an even engagement. For example in the first engagement of the game, the pyro (220 metal) was facing against a lone scorcher (130 metal) which unsurprisngly the pyro won. There is no micro that can save you from such an uneven engagement.

Another problem was the big blindspots in your defense such as the pyros getting in to your base by jumping on to the raised area. There was no defence there and unfortunately pyros are the best at punishing negligence.

Good radar coverage and some porc (even one lotus can distract the pyros enough for your raiders to kill it) or some tricks like imps work nicely.
+2 / -0
8 days ago
That's the point though Warning - the pyros can get anywhere by going around, and can even jump to awkward spots.

You send something to kill them, they run away and hit a more protected area.

This isn't a problem with glaives because they are so weak and have other units that can counter them (Scorchers, kodachi's particularly).

Yes you can build llt, but every llt you build is metal not spent on your mobile army.
+0 / -0

8 days ago
As always, if you think it's OP, demonstrate it by abusing it.
+2 / -0
I mean I find pyros stupidly strong and able to straight up wins games if micro'd right
But I like them so don't nerf them plz.

Real talk, 1 imp is cheaper than 2 glaives and can get multiple pyros at once, learn to use imps to clutch vs higher-skilled players. Especially against raiders cloak struggles against (koda, pyro)

Interestingly, I find darts also shift raider battles to the side of rover fac, especially if a full slow is applied. I am using darts a bit more and I am certainly seeing good results.
+2 / -0
imps are underused.

darts can be problematic, but can be countered with even more micro due to low range and hp.
+1 / -0

7 days ago
Are darts not fast enough to catch pyros running towards them?
+0 / -0

7 days ago
if the pyro runs away and the dart follows the pyro range still is enough to kill it before it can shoot
+1 / -0