Amph, Spider, and Shield factory

if they are still playable without an artillery unit, adding an artillery unit would make them op
its like tank, if you gave tank a (cheaper) skirm it might be op

I think you mean that in Zero-K Lobster other unit is shell.

look at one of gfs last cold takes. there is specifically mentioned why spiders do not have arty.

spider does not need arty...

when do you normally use spider? hill! is it a place where artillery would be needed? NO!!

especially considering how dominant recluse is as skirm vs anything but fencers, and they are entirely different terrain facs anyway

tell me Chomolungma ... do you really want shield factory to have artillery that does damage? don't enough people already complain about it? and if you ask me, lob-ball is already an insane source of artillery. like I won a 1v4 vs 3 arty players xd

same thing for amph, lobster is good enough to get close, especially considering that scallop is shotgun, which excels at close range. grizz also is a great skirm, though I think it should be buffed.

Logix, i must slightly oppose lobbing scallops, they really lack the aoe for that, the shotgun is just less worse very close. I think reavers are the prefered ammo? Throwing in a bomb sounds op though

Faction identity mostly. Vehicles are more about assault and artillery, bots are more about skirmisher, bombs, and weird stuff. Spiders would be very annoying with artillery, and Amph and Spider can shoot at a HLT pretty cheaply with some terraform.