Make split auto start matches

i think maybe some people want to play in very large teams. this would fix some issues but maybe also force players to sometimes play in smaller teams?

sorry godde for the confusion. i didnt say small i said smaller.. i believe perhaps naively that some people want to be in the biggest room they can

perhaps being in a large room eneables them to play without as much pressure on them individually.. maybe im wrong but thats ok i dont know everything..

when i play very large team games if i mess up or make something expencive to play with it feels like less pressure since i have a smaller fraction of the teams metal the more players there are

quote: And when the original lobby starts the match, perform the split and immediately start both lobbies on the same map.

Good luck getting 20+ votes to start a match when people on the waiting list think they will be left out and try to stall all the polls so they can get in, not knowing the game would split afterwards.

There would need to be a clear communication of a split command happening on the poll if it were to be implemented in the way you're saying. Even more so because these matches count for elo, and it would be kinda bad if you were dragged into a split you didn't know was happening.

Honestly I could see people simply alt+f4 the game on start and the lobby be forced into an !exit if that happened.

Maybe I'm biased :), I mean, I would spectate myself.

Why not a start-split vote that clearly communicates the split will happen on gamestart? It could be done through the vote description.

From my thinking and ideasguying on the discord it should automatically tend towards the desired result through player behavior.

If there are too many players to fit in one game, there will be an incentive to vote for a split + start vote for the people who are on the waiting list.
If there are too few to justify a split (up to player opinion), then the players will see the lack of players (or declining number of players) and vote against the split vote.

You can adjust the ratio of vote yeses to players in the lobby needed for a split to get the desired behavior where a split happens when it should.

I'm going a bit offtopic here based on the title of the thread, but since it seems all important on-topic has been said and the thread devolved already, not much value is lost by continuing.

I wonder if the past has been better and some aspects are deteriorating as time goes by, or if simply most people are not willing or able to perform and based on selection bias the individual experience of those who perform changes in time.

So, in short, do most humans just suck?

I read that post with the voice of the Total Annihilation narrator in my head.
It was good.

yes i too agree when it comes to responsibilities they dont avoid using big risk units based on there own skill.. making a detriment is probably never as good idea as smaller units.. locking units to rank was done. i beleive it does reduce player retention by some ?% but i noticed an even stranger conciquence..

when new players pilot a detriment:
less feeding is done all early game..
more damage is done then they normaly would feeding a stream of glaves to a stardust..
mex pay back more then 100% so since they often claim none at the back they gain less metal..
new players often dont have presence on the fronts and so dont eat the reclaim.. unless they are firepluck..

new players troops on a frontlines can sometimes be unsupervised and a hinderance with firewalkers and stuff..
often new players who make detriments will make eco..

for these reasons it may oddly sometimes feel a bit easier having a new players metal not being delivered to the enemy..

among the realy big sins is when a new player finishes a detriment and then walks it around his backline because they fear to use and loose it


it would be interesting to see two goddes vs eachother but one team has 10 greys making detriments and the other has 10 greys making random mixed move order troops sent to pool up behind godde's frontlines.. and then sent to die as balls 4 mins after he pings them.