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Title: [A] Teams All Welcome #1 (32p)
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K v1.11.1.0
Engine version: 105.1.1-1485-g78f9a2c
Battle ID: 1585468
Started: 20 months ago
Duration: 20 minutes
Players: 19
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1 Won!
Chance of victory: 64.3%
XP gained: 66
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Team 2 Lost
Chance of victory: 35.7%
XP gained: 56
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20 months ago
"people don't make cloak much" - gf
+0 / -0


20 months ago
To be slightly fairer, while that might be AUrankAdminGoogleFrog's attitude his literal statements ( https://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/257721#257721 ) are more like:

quote:
it doesn't seem to be ubiquitous in practice. So I don't really buy claims that cloaking absolutely everything is optimal or that it makes it impossible to know what is going on.

quote:
I don't see a significant amount of cloaker usage in my games


The wonders of Australian timezone.
+1 / -0
To be even more fairer:
First, I am not in the nerf-cloak-camp.
[Spoiler]

Yes, overall cloakers are build less commonly than lets say raiders. But the usage of cloak can have a very strong impact on games.
Plus, I am aware that there are more factors to this: being basically 2v3 on our lane. Still, even if I knew puppies were around, what do I do? Cloaky cannot costeffectively screen for puppies. I can place ticks, but then I cannot kill the ticked stuff because I don`t know how many more puppies are in there. And that is exactly what happens here. I try to counter the puppies, only to create more puppies and basically lose the game instantly. So, what am I supposed to do? Facswitch to dirtbags immiediatly?

Also, good game to showcase lances. As I see it, atm there is no good reason to plop anything else then either shields or hover at the moment, with jumpers getting second place only because they are not that abundant and suffer to lances, rover gets 3rd for having impaler and thats it.
+5 / -0


20 months ago
quote:
First, I am not in the nerf-cloak-camp.

Is there a nerf-cloak-camp outside of AUrankAdminGoogleFrog?

Basically everyone I've talked to is in the "rethink area cloaking" camp and don't want a numbers change.
+1 / -0