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Map: StormSiege_v3
 StormSiege_v3
Title: [A] Teams All Welcome
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K v1.7.7.0
Engine version: 104.0.1-1322-gd3b03b5
Battle ID: 752439
Started: 5 years ago
Duration: 22 minutes
Players: 22
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1 Won!
Chance of victory: 49.7%
XP gained: 62
ROrankForever
FIrankterve886
CZrankksaar
SErankfaffnir
USrankmanero
RUrankGabrielle
unknownrankrooks[vegan]
NZrankDISCON_NECTED
CArankkelaze
USrankHIWORLD12345
GBrankTacoor
Team 2 Lost
Chance of victory: 50.3%
XP gained: 51
TWrankgounson8989 died in 22 minutes
USrankLokisar died in 22 minutes
DErankJummy died in 10 minutes
ZArankAstran died in 22 minutes
GBrankpessimisticgamer died in 22 minutes
ESrankMechanID died in 22 minutes
RUrankPrototypestill died in 22 minutes
ESrankmoepmoep died in 20 minutes
ATrankxxRezipro died in 22 minutes
USrankPhDoctor died in 22 minutes
DErankm0rtuu died in 22 minutes
Spectators
UArankCorvus_Corax
Firepluk
PLrankizirayd
snoke
DErankImperathor
USrankearthy_ring




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ROrankForever
5 years ago
This is how you counter Bertha...no need to nerf it AUrankAdminGoogleFrog !
+0 / -0


FIrankterve886
5 years ago
should have spent 1 bertha worth of metal to make silo to kill enemy silos pre-emptively.
+0 / -0


AUrankAdminGoogleFrog
5 years ago
(edited 5 years ago)


This is not the game you want to put forth as an example of good Bertha use. ESrankmoepmoep had his Bertha idle and set to Hold Fire for quite a while after it was completed. Nerfing range is very worrying but I think it will take a bit of time to see its effect.
+3 / -0

ROrankForever
5 years ago
So we are a bunch of test rabbits for you AUrankAdminGoogleFrog? Are you sure that you want to break the game with your "testing" abilities? You are good guy AUrankAdminGoogleFrog, you work hard for making this game good but I can say to you that the balance you make has a lot of flaws and it will remain as such until you discuss with the most experienced player base in the game about the balance. Forget about me and my expectations...but you never ask the player base most of the time when you implement something. At least be the top 1-5 player in teams and constantly have 5 hours of gameplay per day. With that, I will clearly understand your overview of the game and your decisions. But you modify stuff without proper foundation...
+0 / -0

AUrankAdminAquanim
5 years ago
(edited 5 years ago)
quote:
the balance you make has a lot of flaws and it will remain as such until you discuss with the most experienced player base in the game about the balance. Forget about me and my expectations...but you never ask the player base most of the time when you implement something. At least be the top 1-5 player in teams and constantly have 5 hours of gameplay per day.

CZrankpsaniac, top 15: made the original suggestion to reduce Bertha range
NOrankAdminKingstad, top 5:
quote:
The shorter you decide to make its range the more it will matter to give it grid requirement, so do both.

PLrankZenfur, top 1:
quote:
+1 for reduced range by 10-15%
+4 / -0

DErankAdminmojjj
5 years ago
please remove bertha from the game.
+3 / -0

DErankkatastrophe
5 years ago
(edited 5 years ago)
usually we do not have sufficient data for "save" balancing. but bertha has been such a thing in clusterfucks for the last year or so that i think it´s pretty save to assume something should be done with it.

but i have to stress that, at least for me, it´s not a question of if bertha is counterable or not, it´s more if it creates fun gameplay for both sides, wich it clearly doesnt.

I personally would remove it from the game because i don´t see a need for such a unit. you have cerberus for arty-defense, nuke and superweapons as game-enders. Berthas stats are somewhere in between and i don´t really get what intersting niche this thing is supposed to fill...

But on the other hand i totally get why people want to keep it in the game as it is nice to use if you like big guns...

ROrankForever: as much as I disagree with AUrankAdminGoogleFrog in so many things, i need to say that you should think of his situation as well. Imagine dozends of people yelling their different opinions to you. you are always going to piss someone off.
i wouldn´t want to be in this situation.
+1 / -0