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DErankweeler
10 years ago
Hi all
I think it is an good idea that the commander became more slots for modules and weapons. What do you mean to this update for commanders?
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PLrankAdminSprung
10 years ago
(edited 10 years ago)

ZK is an RTS and therefore cannot put too much focus on commanders. An option to put even more modules on them would encourage com morphing even more. This could lead to some setups becoming more efficient than units (which would be against the design goals), while the majority of builds would still be vastly suboptimal (which makes the module stacking pointless). Comms are to stay owled.
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Skasi
10 years ago
On that note, the level 4 and 5 base morph costs might be a tad too low. The power of modules scales more than just linear as people the module number increases.
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PLrankAdminSprung
10 years ago
Nonlinearity of stackable modules imo exists mainly due to range, because outranging something is a boolean value and not a linear one, and autoregen, as with it, health also behaves in a boolean way against some of the main counters (survives N bombers? survives a skuttle? survives tacnuke?) because if you don't get instagibbed you autoregen all damage.
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CArankPxtl
10 years ago
Agree with @skasi. Feels like there is a valley around morph 2-3 and then you get into trollcomms that can clean up.

That feels backwards, and would be frustrating for players who lack the XP for full l4-5 trollcomms.
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DErankAdminmojjj
10 years ago
i like trollcoms because them booming gives sense to my life. but thats just me.

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survives a skuttle?


double it! tadaaa!
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USrankAutoWar
10 years ago
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CArankPxtl "That feels backwards, and would be frustrating for players who lack the XP for full l4-5 trollcomms."


newbies don't know about morph.
newbies recognize they don't know how to use morph right.
newbies don't know about unlocks.
newbies don't know about making new commanders.

Your concern is a non-issue an anti-issue.
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AUrankAdminGoogleFrog
10 years ago
They vaguely know about those things because they see it happen. If you beat them with a level 5 comm they are going to ask how to do it and then feel that something unfair is going on.
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Skasi
10 years ago
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newbies recognize they don't know how to use morph right.

In my experience humans hardly ever recognize that they don't know enough about something.

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newbies don't know about unlocks.

"Congratulations AutoWar! You just leveled up to level 1. http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/284982"
How about now?
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USrankAutoWar
10 years ago
Skasi please recall that many things in ZeroK are unique, or at least uniquely implemented.

The example you gave is still extremely obtuse from the perspective of a new player.

People will avoid learning new things when possible, with the universal exception of trivia.
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AUrankAdminAquanim
10 years ago
(edited 10 years ago)
Commander upgrades beyond a LPB at level 1 are pretty trivial.

...Unless you play on Geyser Plains.

More relevant to the actual point, overmorphing one's com is a very, very common mistake made by new players, and they don't recognise that they don't know how to use it right (which is to say, generally, not at all). As a corollary, they therefore know about unlocks and making new commanders.
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