devs: before develop new things, solution the Problems!!!!

Schisse!

Well lol. They are, but most AI is actually unable to do things.
Venom stops jinking once stun, AI stands still in enemy fire.

Why don't you solution your translator's problems before developing new rage posts?

PR's welcome by the way. :)

A bit off topic, but where can I find those scripts ?

I think I have used slashers before, and I do not think I can remember them moving while on hold position.

A timestamp would be nice.

EDIT: Okay, Xivender starts screaming "FUCK YOU DEVS" at around 6:30.

And, well... the slashers aren't on hold position (unless you are talking about the move state toggle), they have been given a fight-move command.

This is what you get for using fight-move command on Slashers.

"Through" the porc is also misleading. They chase the phoenix until it is no longer inside some radius, then return to shooting at the porc.

I'm not sure if the kiting behavior has anything to do with it, but slashers should refrain from chasing random things as long as there's a target in range. That's what units are supposed to do when given fight orders on hold pos.

The engine provides generic behaviour for the average unit.
Slasher has a very big issue that it can't fire while moving; That makes fight/attack commands problematic. So the issue is more Slasher being what it is than the engine's default behaviour.

quote: Idea: How about we take away heatray's thing where it does more damage if the enemies are closer, and replace it with a set value

So you've wandered into a thread and made a completely irrelevant suggestion to remove one of the more interesting mechanics in the game?

whyyy


hokomoko if it was unclear, I do agree that the way to make Slasher work properly is to write special rules for it ZK-side rather than changing anything engine-side. My point was that AFAIK the cause of Slasher behaving less nicely than at some undetermined point in the past was probably an engine-side change to the generic behaviour which as a side-effect made Slasher behave poorly.

Since nobody seems to interpret what I said the way I wanted, I will restate what I said:

Iirc, there was a time when slashers behaved as Xivender wants, I also used fight command with slashers and it worked great. I suspect, since there were no engine changes, that this was due to their smart AI:
They stop when an enemy is in range, and didn't move again until there were no more targets available.

But at some point, slasher smart AI was modified, were slashers would automatically try to kite. This turned out to make them less effective, many assaults and riots could walk into range before the slashers packed their gun, and the slashers would have been better off trying to finish off the unit while it approached.
Result: People started to turn off smart AI.

After a while, people started to notice that slashers now chased their targets, leading to Xivender's rage post.

TLDR:
I think the old smart AI was good, then it was changed to failkiting, people turned off smart ai, which turned out to to have this chasing problem

Well, if we can prove that holdpos slashers with ai disabled don't chase things then it's science. Otherwise it's probably an engine issue.